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United States Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent insisted his country is "not at war" with Canada, then proceeded to mock the threat Canada could pose to his country with "submarines from the Edmonton mall."

The secretary also suggested Prime Minister Mark Carney was to blame for the current "political shouting match" between the two countries because keeping the fight alive is good for his poll numbers.

Bessent made the remarks Monday in an interview with the U.S. cable news network CNBC, where he was asked if his country is now in a trade war with Canada.

"Well, I don't think you can be in a tit for tat with someone that's 13 times larger than you are," he said.

"I mean we're not at war with Canada. How are we going to be at war with Canada? What, are they going to take their two submarines from the Edmonton mall and sic them on us?"

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[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The Canadian military did an analysis of how to fight a war with America. The study's conclusion was the most devastating and effective strategy is to sit back and watch them destroy themselves.

Best we can do for ourselves is to unplug from their systems.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

If we're thinking of the same study, that was because the US attempting to invade canada would be such a drastically unpopular move that it would kick off a US civil war in response. Also Canada wasn't planning to sit back, but to not engage directly / do a guerilla for the actual invasion while supporting the pro-canada/sanity side with intelligence and materiel.

It was never "watch them destroy themselves", the last damn thing Canada wants is a gutted former superpower with an uncertain political outlook next door.

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The plan is to fuel the separatists in Alberta, then after a massive campaign to legitimize them annex part of Alberta under the guise of a referendum. After all, if they vote to join, it's democratic.

Read up on how they captured Hawaii. It doesn't have to be a shooting war and it doesn't have to be all of Canada.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We're talking about a very different study, but thank you!

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about a study, which means you (hopefully) misunderstood my comment. But thank you!

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sorry; we are talking about a specific study done by the canadian armed forces - slightly different from what you're discussing. Said study did indeed address what you're describing however! One of the scenarios for the civil-war-triggering military action was the annexation/secession/alberta-ness, which would need to be backed by the US military (given that all but the southern edge would be a strategic nightmare to hold, especially when surrounded on three sides).

I'm not sure there's many parallels between hawaii and alberta, but I am super curious what you mean!

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about a study. That's fine if you are.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think... Yes? I'm a tad confused, I confess: I don't think anyone here has misunderstood anything.

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A few comments implied I was referencing or talking about a study. I didn't understand why they thought I was, because I wasn't.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Ah, I see. Sorry for any confusion, I just meant we were talking about a specific study.

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

Then I guess the confusion isn't recoverable and we just have to accept that we can't communicate.

Sorry if I wasted your time, please have a great rest of your week.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Makes sense. You don't directly attack something 10 times your size, there's plenty of other ways to fuck it up good and proper. Even neanderthals figured that out.

[–] Awooooooga@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I seriously doubt that, at this point. They have gestapo shooting people in the street and only Minnesota really did anything about it.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're half right though. Charging in won't help, gotta let them get comfy and cocky, then you mess them up from behind.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It was assymetrixal warfare because any Canadian under US rule would join terrorist groups.

Not the US destroying themselves.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I don't trust the Ontarians I know who still keep a place in Florida and still plan to retire there, despite everything that has happened in recent years. The only things they pay any attention to are money and sunshine, and they won't stand up for anything.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fuck those Boomers, sooner or later they will get carted off to a hospital and drained of all the money they hoarded.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

They come back here for that.

The way the Tangerine Temper Tantrum views us, we're basically terrorists anyway, so not much gonna change there.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Industrial base of US is all very close to border. Very active lobbying of those states to join as Canadian provinces should be made, making it clear that their entire base of wealth/employment is dependent on factories not burning. It's not enough for them to just complain that tariffs are inconvenient to them.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yup, I wish autoshops used more canadian parts though.

[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What Canadian parts though? We willingly gave all our manufacturing of aftermarket parts to China.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The US took them from us. That's what the free trade agreements they forced on us were about.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

Like motor oil and filters are sourced from American companies