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[–] BrainBow65@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You're joking, right? There's a reason genotype and phenotype aren't synonyms.

[–] Slashme@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Forensic DNA phenotyping is actually being used. Of course it's not perfect, but it can give a direction.

[–] BrainBow65@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hadn't heard of this before but I'm more than a little skeptical, especially if its being used for policing

"More recently, companies such as Parabon NanoLabs and Identitas have begun offering forensic DNA phenotyping services for U.S. and international law enforcement. However, the science behind the commercial services offered by Parabon NanoLabs has been criticized as it has not been subjected to scrutiny in peer-reviewed scientific publications. It has been suggested that it is not known "whether their ability to estimate a face’s appearance is better than chance, or if it’s an approximation based on what we know about ancestry” -DNA phenotyping wiki

[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

A very reasonable concern.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There's also a reason identical twins look alike.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago

Wow, Jack and Ross look so alike! How did he get his arm back, isn't that after the accident?

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Don't know why you're being downvoted, it's a good point that shows that genetics is the main factor for your appearance

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe but there is more to the outcome than just genes. Certain ones can be activated of deactivated and that can be done by epigentics for example. Gene expression is a thing.

The AI would need way more information that just DNA to generate an image of the person.

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But they could probably get 90% the way there with just DNA. I think that was the point.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, they couldn't, that's what's being said. If you have a huge state machine with billions of parameters, toggling a different subset can yield wildly different results.

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But there are examples of twins who grew up apart and still look almost identical

So? That's nowhere near the same thing as what you're suggesting "AI can just take DNA and make the same person". Look up what twins actually are. They aren't just DNA injected into some random person.

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They said "perfectly", not "90%". You're trying to move the goalposts.

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

I just re-read their post and yes you're right, in which case I disagree with them. "Perfect" is not achievable by any means. Maybe accurate enough to be mistaken as a twin for the real person, but not perfect

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe if you mean things like two eyes, two hands, two feet, one nose, but not in any details

[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Identical twins also share the same womb, so it's not 100% genes.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Same womb, similar growing environment, etc.

But even then, they're not perfectly identical. Very similar, but not the exact same.

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I don't think root comment was saying the AI would generate perfectly accurate images. I think 90% accuracy is doable, just from DNA

[–] BrainBow65@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you're just talking about a strand of DNA with no epigenetic info I think 90% is being very optimistic.