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[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

In terms of security alone, iPhones easily beat most Android phones

That's not how security works in the modern tech landscape. No major OS is going to meet a high security standard out of the box. All of them have to be configured to the desired security level, then be added to ongoing security efforts. Every major OS can be secured to the highest security standards

The primary difference is how much effort each takes, but even then there isn't much of a difference. You'll find tooling and in-house expertise makes a much larger difference than the OS

The myth that some OS are inherently secure really needs to die off

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Every major OS can be secured to the highest security standards

Has Android added E2EE to their cloud backups yet like Apple has?

Apple is no friend to any of us, but Google openly and shamelessly scrapes every piece of data you put on their phones. Apple is absolutely the lesser of these two evils with out of the box functionality. I say this as a lifelong Android fan and Apple hater that entered the cybersecurity space and am only interested in the most private option I can get out of the box.

Like an Android can be more secure and private than an IPhone, but afaik that involves owning a Pixel specifically and installing an entirely different OS on it, one that Google a Is also out to get.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You do know that Apple privately scrapes every piece of data you put on their phones right? Go read the privacy and ad policies. Apple also gives access to a lot of their users private information (China has full access to its users iCloud), will remove apps like this (while Google still allows apps that block ad trackers like DuckDuckGo that block Google own trackers). And Google supports CSE.

We get it from your post, your a huge and blind Apple fan that wants to do anything you can to confuse others into believing falsely like you that Apple is somehow a great company and product. But the truth is, Apple doesn't care about your privacy, lies to your face about it, and makes you less secure and your information less private as these situations show. And if you were in cybersecurity, you'd know this.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 0 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago)

I’m not much of an Apple fan, I just like to get my privacy where I can. And with over a decade of experience in cybersecurity I can confidently say that as much as you shouldn’t blindly trust Apple, they at least give you a number of tools to increase your privacy out of the box.

Android on the other hand is a nightmarish hellscape of data mining and user profiling. There is GrapheneOS which is as of today a great option to circumvent Google’s data mining, but now that its future is at stake I worry for the future of privacy on Android devices.

But we get it from your post, you’re a pro-Google shill bot that didn’t actually read my comment and is just regurgitating nonsense to muddy the waters.