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[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 28 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I imagine that for most of the people in that third, using a local model would be beyond their technical abilities.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

If there's the demand, and I bet that there will be, someone is going to be making plug-and-play local AI compute boxes once prices come down that eliminate a lot of the learning curve. Like, preconfigured software and all that.

Joe User is not going to be talking about memory bandwidth or compiling software or setting sampler parameters. But---as the cloud guys demonstrate---he can use it if it's set up. And there will be more-approachable front ends and such.

[–] lordbritishbusiness@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Already kinda true with the dgx sparc, and probably will be replaced with a cheaper version when they find themselves overstocked.

Maybe, I'm not really sure that's competitive while the principal value prop of LLM tools is mass surveillance / advertising. I suppose commodity on-prem LLMs could become a thing after the current bubble pops and we scrape an economy together from the rubble. Maybe there's a slice of people who understand the costs of trusting cloud LLMs (which would, I hope, be higher post-pop), but also lack the expertise to set up and run their own on-prem LLM, that would be interested in something like that.

I think demand for privacy-respecting (and creator-respecting) tools can be driven up by increasing global technical literacy. That would also, hopefully, increase the number of people able to create and maintain their own free tools, and decrease the ability of data slurpers to bilk ignorant people.

[–] eicker@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

People will adapt - or run into massive problems anyway.

[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if they will adapt. People who are ignorant of how computers, software, and the internet work run into massive problems now, often without even realizing it. Making computers seem esoteric and difficult to understand serves the interest of those who would use those tools to scam, deceive, or otherwise manipulate people. I know it was a dizzying amount of information back when I got my degree, and it's only gotten more complex since then. I'm sure there are a ton of people who wish they knew more but don't know how.

A ton of adults in the US struggle with basic arithmetic, not because they're stupid, but because they were never taught properly. They don't try to learn, because there aren't a ton of resources for adults at that level and it's very embarrassing for an adult to ask for help with 8th grade (US grade for 12-13 years olds) math.

I'm going to have to do some research on this. The better adults (and children) who had shitty schools growing up can fill the gaps in their education, the harder it will be for billionaires to trick them with fancy gadgets like LLMs. Seems like a problem worth trying to address. The only thing I know off the top of my head is Khan Academy, and it's been years since I used that, I don't know if it's any good nowadays. Regardless, the current state of affairs is obviously... suboptimal.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It used to be called the blinking twelve problem, because many adults were unable or unwilling to learn how to set the clock on a VCR, resulting in it being stuck at the start up state of flashing 12:00.

Even if running local AI would be as simple as downloading an app, a bunch would still have issues.

Yeah, it's a colossal problem. One of the cool things about the internet is it allows for the decoupling of education from government or corporate power, at least as far as the internet itself can be decoupled from government or corporate power (an ongoing and also colossal problem), but it requires that people who need education 1) have physical access to education, 2) can locate the educational resources that they need, in the order they need them, and 3) are able and willing to seek out and take advantage of the resources available to them.

I'm not even sure how to start, it's such a massive undertaking. But I think the more we can make education freely available and accessible on the internet, the better off the earth will be.