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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 106 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Does that mean Musk's businesses have access to everything people do on the systems that use their data centers?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 131 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Generally no, because most hosting companies would have something baked into SLA/SLO contracts, but all of this shit is done so illegally and shadily now, I wouldn't put a hard "no" on that possibility.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 36 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody can verify that those "contracts" are actually being honored. We are all assuming the fascists will self police themselves out of good will.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not true. I've been involved in litigation with both AWS and Google over unsecured comms that were defined as being TLS secured in SLA/SLO contracts and found not to be. Not that anything nefarious was happening necessarily, but the expectation is clear.

Whether these asshats even check for such requirements with a Musk run company right now 🤷

It COULD possibly be that they are logging every exchange happening at the network fabric between the service layers, but nobody knows unless they intentionally take steps to investigate or accidentally prove it.

[–] expr@programming.dev 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Still means jack shit. Companies will lie through their teeth and violate any and all they can get away with.

They are not to be trusted.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

You're missing the point, nobody is talking about trusting these companies.

You can tell if a connection is encrypted end to end or not. And if your paying for that service you can sue if you aren't receiving what your paying for.

In digital security nobody relies on trust if they can help it. And security matters if you want to keep a competitive edge on your competition, so even shitty companies care about that.

[–] skvlp@feddit.nl 50 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I hope you’re right, but Elon don’t strike me as the guy whose most compliant to SLA, law, or anything else that might be an inconvenience to him.

[–] esc@piefed.social 12 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

He can't micromanage everything and regular management will try to comply.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 17 points 13 hours ago

Executives are the biggest cheaters out there. They will only comply if it will hurt them if they don't, and it's won't here, as long as the protection money is produced they don't have to worry.

[–] shartgargle@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 hours ago

I highly doubt that he really knows that much, either.

[–] skvlp@feddit.nl 6 points 14 hours ago

I agree with that. But I think "the right" data scientists can infer too much from all those AI queries, and I think Elon can abuse that for his own gain.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 22 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Impossible to know.

There are systems for doing things cryptographically secure, but I don’t know much about that.

[–] 314xel@lemmy.world 33 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Cryptography? Security? FROM A GENAI COMPANY?!

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Well yeah, for themselves

Homomorphic encryption? Much slower than "trust me, bro".