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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Not a vegan but I am surprised to learn there is a debate amongst vegans about honey.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 11 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm not at all, vegan as a personal trait is a bit of a broad church these days.

There's the people that are mostly motivated by the not-killing-animals thing

Then there's the ones doing it predominantly for environmental reasons

Then you've got the ones doing it for various health reasons

Then you've got people doing it predominantly for cost reasons (fewer here, given vegan is still treated as a luxury aspect in a lot of food categories)

Those groups do not have to overlap in views at all. It's entirely expected for there to be disagreement and purity test drama given that IMO

[–] igmelonh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 minutes ago

Yeah, I'm not in any vegan groups but I've seen (what is hopefully) a vocal online minority of those who use the label for killing-is-wrong reasons angrier at folks using it for any other reason than they are at folks who do consume animal products, insisting that the other camps should use "plant-based (diet)" instead.

[–] lime@feddit.nu -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

yeah the fda classifies it as a meat product.

[–] remon@ani.social 12 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

That's just a myth spread around the internet.

Their actual definition is:

Reference materials in the public domain define honey as “a thick, sweet, syrupy substance that bees make as food from the nectar of plants or secretions of living parts of plants and store in honeycombs.” FDA has concluded that this definition accurately reflects the common usage of the term “honey

https://www.fda.gov/media/110846/download

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 5 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago) (1 children)

a definition is not a classification though. how do they categorise it?

[–] remon@ani.social 1 points 2 minutes ago

As "Honey, jams, jellies, fruit butter, molasses"

https://www.fda.gov/product-categories-and-products