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While true, they also advertised themselves on a platform most Americans use.
Say what you want about someone's ability to not use a social media platform in the first place, but if you're a band that depends on... people, it's hard to just decide not to put yourself out there on a platform where so many people are.
The network effect is real. It's where people's friends, family, celebrities, bands, etc all are. Leaving means leaving people who are important to you.
A lot of people find it easier to leave platforms like Twitter now, because the platform is such a shell of its former self that it doesn't even provide what many people originally came there for, but if you're on Instagram, Facebook, etc, it still often provides people with easy communication to/from family and friends, and organizations like bands with access to an audience, promotion, visibility, etc.
Leaving the platform means leaving fans, and giving up visibility. I wish everyone could just quit Meta's platforms and crush the company, but there's a very simple collective action problem at play here that makes it very difficult, don't discount that.
I think it applies differently to famous, rich, figures who already have an audience. They could loudly announce they're leaving facebook. A chunk of their fans would follow. They're already rich, they can tank losing some fans. It would be better for everyone to get people off Facebook platforms and onto open ones.
Some local band that's struggling to get their first EP out I could maybe cut some slack on going to where the people are.
That's fair. Still, I do think it's a tad unreasonable to expect of people, when it can significantly impact their popularity and thus their income, when the actual effect of them leaving is usually that... essentially nothing happens to the company they're leaving from.
Unfortunately, Facebook and its users likely won't care much if someone leaves the platform, as long as they can keep scrolling. It's gotta be on a very large scale, with a lot of people giving up portions of their audience before more people start genuinely moving to alternatives.
Sure, like King Gizzard left spotify and put their music on bandcamp. They got some press about it. Some of my friends went to bandcamp to get their music, even. But the vast majority of people still just use spotify. People don't care about things, especially if it would be inconvenient.
It's still good to get people off private platforms.
tl;dr fascist bootlicker apologia
I'd hardly call explaining the network effect and collective action problem fascist apologia, but you do you.
All I'm saying is you can't expect someone to leave behind most of their audience's primary way of communicating with them scot-free. There are always consequences.
Let's say they stop posting on Instagram. Out of those 2.7 million followers, only a fraction will find them on another platform, and thus they simply lose their ability to message to all the people they left behind. That hurts them.
You can still think it's a net good for society for them to leave, or that it would meaningfully hurt Facebook (it wouldn't unless most people also left, but again, collective action problem), but you can't act like they don't face consequences by doing it. It's not "fascist bootlicker apologia" to say that leaving some of your audience behind on a platform reduces your audience.
Another wall of text excusing bad behavior. Hey yo I am not gonna read entire essays about this shit in a comments thread. Pare it down a bit.
Have you considered not being a lazy and low effort asshole?
Have you considered not making excuses for rich people who support fascists?
Sorry your rambling answer was too long and stupid, I didnt bother to read it.
Oh, I know this one! It's pretending to be an idiot on purpose! You know, there's a great website for people like you. I think it's called fakebunch, falsebank, something like that.
The amount of vitriol you have spewed into the fediverse over your 2 months here is quite impressive for somebody with a link to their patreon in their profile. You know, theres a great phrase for people like you. I think it goes something like "you'll catch more flies with honey than the shit coming out of your mouth", something like that.
Yeah, it's because I stand up for what I believe in no matter whether money is involved. You could learn a thing from my example and stop making excuses for rich people who support fascists.
Note to self: the best way to fight fascism is to talk shit at my target audience.
You could learn a thing or two from every other poster here and stop making excuses for your own own vitriolic rhetoric fetching you negative feedback.
If you can't spend a minute and a half reading, you don't have any ground to stand on in calling my point "fascist apologia".
Either be willing to actually assess what I'm saying on its merits, or keep just going with your gut instinct and instantly responding to anything that's even remotely contradictory to your opinion by calling it fascist, but that doesn't change the point being made.
If you don't care to even read my point in the first place, I don't care to respond further, since you're clearly not interested in anything other than feeling self-righteous without thinking about it.
That's strike three bud. Byebye.
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