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[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's an easy one - racism. "Erie" is a Native American/First Nations name. "Pennsylvania" is "Penn's Woods", honoring a white European colonizer.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

4 great lakes are native names, and idk how many states, at least half I would hazard. Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, I think Montana, idk Idaho, Wyoming maybe, Mississippi, Missouri, and so forth. I think not sure on all of these.

[–] username_1@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I fail to see how renaming Pennsylvania to Erie is racism regardless of the etymology of both names.

[–] Cerothen@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think he means that because it's a first Nations name they wouldn't do it.

[–] codydodd@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes this. Trump was happy to rename Ontario, the name the lake has held for centuries, even before Europeans arrived. There is a reason Canadas First Nations are deeply pro crown, republican Quebec or Alberta would follow America in replacing all things indigenous with their white alternatives.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh fuck off. If anyone knows the value of preserving a language is Quebec.

[–] codydodd@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Right. That's the issue. Many quebec Cree and Innu nations fear what will happen to their languages under a Quebec Republic. This isnt just me talking . https://maisonneuve.org/article/divisive-language

I am open to an honest conversation about this if you are open to more than swearing. Its a legitmate issue to many.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Canadas First Nations are deeply pro crown

This is a dangerous falsehood. Indigenous ppl get audiences with the crown because their treaties are with the crown, and not with the Federation Government. They are absolutely NOT "pro-crown".

You should no longer say that.

[–] codydodd@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Thanks for the important distinction. If forced politically to choose between the crown and republicanism these communities are consistently choosing the crown, is all I mean.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I understand what you meant. However, specific language is better to speak of this because of the tendency of people to extrapolate from single facts inappropriately.