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[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

China is better at capitalism than the US is.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

China is better at capitalism than anyone else is. It's not even close.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 17 hours ago

Well none of this (including the price) would be happening without massive government subsidies so I'm not sure here is the place to take a victory lap for capitalism due to artificially low prices designed to win market share abroad, but okay.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The United States greatly prefers that corporations be in charge of the government to governments being in charge of corporations.

[–] randompasta@lemmy.today -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not much difference in the outcome for the general population.

[–] doben@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

That‘s a reach, if I ever saw one. China lifted more than 800 million people out of poverty, and in fact eradicated poverty at all. Last I heard, their standard of living just closely missed being in the high income countries category. Their trajectory is in complete contrast to the declining Western empire.

China is better at capitalism, because it‘s their only play to stay sovereign and overcome this predatory system completely. They have to prove to the capitalist world, that their system and long term development is superior and it‘s only beneficial for the world to follow their transition towards socialism to enable prosperity for all humankind, not just the global north. Not gonna happen under capitalism, especially not under the US or the EU.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago

20% youth unemployment and this tankie is posting this lmao

[–] mgenehoffman@sh.itjust.works 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This is just not true for an enormous number of people. The wealth disparity is striking. The ones who are making it are making it, but it is nowhere near everyone.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Disparity is rising in China with the development of the private sector, but it is fundamentally true that the CPC primarily focuses on developing the living conditions for the working classes:

Essentially, capitalists are winning the most, but the CPC ensures that more than anything the lives of the working classes are focused on. Additionally, as the private sector grows, it gets increasingly controlled and subsumed into the public sector. The privledge capitalists have rest on a dying basis because their purpose is to facilitate development towards higher levels of socialism, through developing the productive forces more rapidly. This is the tradeoff China made, and its working.

[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unless you are Tibetan or Uyghur.

[–] doben@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I try not to let US state department propaganda narratives dictate my perspective on their geopolitical adversaries.

[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure and Tiananmen Square never happened.

[–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You are the one denying issues with Tibet and the Uyghurs.

[–] doben@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Nah man, not „denying issues“. I‘m just not willing to jump through hoops, because you keep throwing propaganda talking points at me.

Uyghurs and Tibet, Tibet, Uyghurs, More Uyghurs

Breakthrough News, a media outlet hated by Trump, has some actual reporting on China with their regular China Report. On the linked video their guest is Ben Norton of Geopolitical Economy Report, another excellent resource.

E: How quaint.