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The administration of lemmy.ml routinely abuses its rule 1 anti-bigotry policy to conduct political censorship, deleting documented facts regarding the ukraine invasion, holodomor, and xinjiang abuses under false pretexts of imperialist propaganda, misinformation, and nazism while leaving pro-Kremlin talking points untouched.

Verifiable public moderation logs prove this systemic shielding of state propaganda, down to moderators inverting standard geopolitical context, such as noting that fringe extremist units do not make an entire democratic nation fascist, to ban dissenters under the explicit excuse of being a Nazi.

https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=25800386 and https://lemmy.world/modlog/446?page=1&actionType=All&userId=20355358.

The Europe community moderator (https://lemmy.world/u/geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml), who focuses exclusively on criticizing the West and never Russia or China, banned me as a Nazi.

I decided to block the lemmy.ml instance entirely to avoid any further interaction.

I see that there are dozens of relevant posts; you can find the relevant report posts here

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Every Marxist state (USSR, China, Cambodia, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam) produced authoritarian regimes with mass deaths, poverty, or corruption. None achieved Marx's stated goal of classless, stateless society. China and Vietnam abandoned core Marx principles for market mechanisms to survive economically. I do not support capitalism or imperialism of USA, Israel and Europe, neither approach is good for humanity! No one them think of labor class

by 🐭 Labor Class@lemmy.world reason: Imperialist propaganda

Well this is pretty standard right wing, often US, propaganda so the reason isn't far off. 😄 Sure they are pretty trigger happy but parroting right wing propaganda (whether or not you consider it such, and whether or not you consider yourself a capitalist) in an self-avowed leftist space won't get you hugs and kisses. Especially in this day and age when everyone is looking at whay the US is doing and catching up on world history as a result. If it were me I wouldn't delete and ban, instead I'd post references to read. But it is what it is. 🤷

[–] lithiumground@lemmy.world 2 points 42 minutes ago

The thing is, they should debunk my claims. It would be good for others to see that I’m wrong, Tankies are right. But removing comments or posts actually proves they’re just like their governments, Russia and China. You know Putin doesn’t tolerate criticism—Alexei Navalny was a dissident, and he ended up dead in prison. These tankies are the online version of them.

anti-zionists and anti-Westerners can publish videos on YouTube, and rarely do they get deleted.

By the way, I am not capitalist or right-wing. But it doesn't mean I will support their empty communism, which just produces authoritarian regimes.

[–] phar@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

What the person said above is true though. None ever got to statelessness like Marx intended. If you ban the truth because that same truth is used by people that also say things that are not true, you're really no better than they are. That being said, I feel most US propaganda is just "socialism is communism and that is bad." Most of the time they can't even define socialism or communism. But if you just ban everyone that has a different opinion or wants to just have a discussion about what the best approach is, you've created an authoritarian instance anyway and pretty much exemplify the biggest issue everyone has with states that have tried communism. Sets a really bad precedent.

In the world i live in, this isnt right wing propaganda. Here right wing propaganda is that the defaults of those states are defaults of communism, and what i understand from this comments corresponds to what i hear anarchist and libertaires saying : that the default of those states were due to authoritarianism rather than communism, because they were implementing only socialism at their very best.

Maybe it's a cultural difference then, but there are some place on earth where criticizing authoritarian states isnt necessarily right or left wing.

[–] LuceVendemiaire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"Right Wing Propaganda" for a ~~Stalinist~~ ML sure, but pretty much every other left wing strain of thought has some grievances with these countries. At best you can call this leftist infighting

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

A version of this does exist in left-wing infighting but this narrative specifically has been and is constantly repeated by the American right, probably some of the centre too:

Every Marxist state (USSR, China, Cambodia, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam) produced authoritarian regimes with mass deaths, poverty, or corruption.

It's currently being deployed to attack the insurgent left that's contesting some elections this year, along with the resurgent interest and popularity in socialism over the last couple of years.

Everyone on the left has grievances with these past and present projects. Including MLs.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca -3 points 1 day ago

The communist regimes were all set upon to the point where authoritarians took over, and never gave it up. It's not a rebuke of communism that cuba wasn't a utopia, with the US on it's ass.

That said, I think a mixed socialism capitalism society could work best, but with strict 1950 style controls, taxing the rich 90% on obscene profits and all that. Enforcing anti trust laws, and so forth. Not doing those is not capitalism, it's crony capitalism/oligarchy.