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    [–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 322 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Which is entirely tragic, because LibreOffice is good, I respect hand coding more than the products of a prompt slot machine.

    [–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 205 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    LibreOffice just outright stating their policy of 'no AI' as a feature made me respect them so much more.

    [–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 13 minutes ago

    They allow the use of AI for contributions but with multiple restrictions: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy

    [–] oce@jlai.lu -3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    I wonder how long this will hold. Remind me 3 years?

    [–] aksdb@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    I think β€œno AI” policies are a good thing and the intention is (likely) not literally forbidding AI; they couldn’t in any meaningful way. But the code should have a human attribution and ownership. If the code reeks of LLM, it’s shitty code quality. If people open MRs saying it was written by an agent, they distance themselves from their contribution but expect others to review and integrate it; which is also shitty behavior.

    If on the other hand it’s well crafted code that was being thought through and refined, no one should or could care if an LLM was involved.

    [–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

    Yes, eventually no one will care, that's my point. Using AI will become as normalized as using the internet for help, so the no AI policy will not hold. I agree that people should still own their changes and be held responsible for the quality.

    Edit: I checked the actual source, they actually already allow the use of AI for contributions but with multiple restrictions: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy

    [–] otter@lemmy.ca 80 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

    It's only tragic for a month, after which the other project gets abandoned because its unmaintainable or the vibecoder got bored and moved on to another viral idea

    I'm not going to switch to something unless I know its going to be around when I need it

    [–] 00000@reddthat.com 13 points 17 hours ago

    The person behind all these *craft projects has (or claims to have) made millions from his AI image / video creation services and scam-enabling deepfake voice cloner. The projects are linked to and funded by his commercial endeavors. He's also extremely exuberant about real developers and creators losing their jobs, and suffers from massive AI psychosis. Unfortunately I don't think he or this project is going anywhere.

    I don't think any of it will ever actually work, but he's very good at making outlandish comments and drumming up hype, so we're going to keep hearing about it anyway.

    [–] saltesc@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    abandoned because its unmaintainable

    Exactly this. It's hard enough maintaining my own code. It can take a good 15 mins or so to familiarise myself with something I haven't worked on in a short while. Seeing code that isn't mine is very challenging. Not the code itself, but the methods and structures used by the other person. All that has to be done before hunting bugs and adjusting features. Then of course there's the things you don't know about that can be easily missed.

    An AI would need to thoroughly know the code and detailed context on the decisions behind it all, every session, in order to be able to maintain it with vibe, because the vibe coder won't know any of this.

    [–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 20 points 1 day ago

    To me, its tragic for exactly that reason; the vibiot, is lavished and rewarded with attention, when they don't even understand the outputs from their prompt slot machine. So when they get bored or confused by their projects and chase the next craze...The person that should've gotten the accolades for understanding and maintaining their work, is forgotten still. I don't like this timeline, its a stupid time to be alive.

    [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    That rule where something is expected to last in the future as long as it already has in the past probably applies here

    [–] otter@lemmy.ca 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_effect

    Neat, I haven't heard of this one before. I'll likely use it in the future

    [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

    Yeah, I love little rules of thumb like that

    [–] kuerbiskernoel@feddit.org 6 points 20 hours ago

    That's why I code in Fortran

    [–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    Damn; looks like grandma is going to outlive us all

    [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

    The wikipedia article on the effect covers this with an awfully blunt aside lol

    The Lindy effect applies to non-perishable items, like books, those that do not have an "unavoidable expiration date".[2] For example, human beings are perishable

    [–] StabbingSky@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    It's good enough that my 75yo mother picked it up without trouble when I switched her to Mint after W10 went EoL.

    [–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    Same. My 60+ mother got a new computer recently, saw the prices of MS Office and told me "install that free thing". So far no complaints, first remark was "well, looks like it has all the same buttons, works for me"

    [–] AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    I wish the people at my company were like your mother. Instead, they freak out about the smallest of changes in the UI of the same application. God forbid they have to move to another application entirely. Had a user freak out their application wasn't licensed and they couldn't use all functions anymore. Turns out they just managed to somehow hide the toolbar with all the options... These are people anywhere from 20 to 60 years old, btw.

    [–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago

    Yeah, it is not an age thing. I'm very happy that my mother has always been pretty good at programming solving. Although she never did any real tech related job, I believe this is a question of attitude more than anything else.

    When she proudly tells me she used my dad's phone to google for a fix for her phone acting up, my inner first year support monkey is proud :)

    [–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    'prompt slot machine' <- I'm borrowing that

    Or just slop-machine in short

    [–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

    Enjoy, its such a good turn of phrase!