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This kid is the difference between idealism and reality.
In an idealist world, automation would fund UBI, which would fund a higher quality of living for everyone. Which is effectively parallel to what you're arguing here, in it's fundamental mechanics.
As you can probably see, many Western nations don't have UBI. Why? Because automation doesn't give back to the people, automation provides more wealth to a few corporations and individuals.
The same thing goes with delivery robots. It largely benefits the corporation, which can cut additional expenses by not having to pay a human. Where does that money go? It goes to line someone's coffers. If it was taxed appropriately, then that money could go back into the public, but it doesn't.
People don't want to work crappy delivery jobs. They do it out of necessity in order to buy food and pay rent, and the buying of that food and the paying of that rent also increasingly goes to smaller set of large corporations.
That's the reality.
I mean yes, but climate change is also a reality and presumably most deliveries are done via car. Or maybe scooter. And for scooter or bike this is also a dangerous job in traffic.
I would also say that it is ideology vs amorality, which is the prevailing system of belief currently in the west, and increasingly so. People do not believe that democracy works any more so you do not see any attempt at demands for regulations any more. That is not realism, that is fatalism.
Liberalism / neoliberalism and the "international liberal order" can (I believe) be understood as a system that only allows capitalism to control government and society, and fundamentally no ideology. Ideology only serves as a facade or shield or distraction but there is no core.
So the hysteria and willingness to abandon reality we see from fuckai (and other recent dividing frameworks) reflect that. Maybe it is even something that is deliberately pushed by the dark enlightenment around Peter Thiel, to erode belief in and functionality of democracy. But that is speculation.
And even Musk understands that we're going to need UBI the more automation and as demand plummets due to poverty.