President Donald Trump mocked transgender people in front of Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, whose child identifies as nonbinary, during an Oval Office meeting in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday that was intended to focus on trade relations but instead became a showcase of Trump’s familiar culture war politics.

The meeting, held in the presence of reporters, aimed to emphasize renewed cooperation between the two countries, which remain deeply economically intertwined. But as The Independent reported, it “devolved into a political rally disguised as a routine press availability.” Trump repeatedly veered off topic to attack Democrats, the media, and transgender people, boasting that under his leadership, “We have strong borders. We have no men in women’s sports. We’re not going to take your child away and change the sex of your child.”

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 52 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I'm certain the basic ability to do so isn't the problem. More like, they have us at a disadvantage and he thinks tolerating Trump is the smartest play. Time will tell if that works out at all.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I heard a nice line on CBC Power & Politics today - that what we're feeling right now is the powerlessness Latin American countries have been feling for a long time while being in the US'es crosshair.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Alliance time :>

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

we’re gonna need to get rid of the open-air mines before doing any alliance

Two panel meme. The first is a picture of a woman kayaking in a beautiful azure river surrounded by a forest and a towering mountain, labeled "Cuando visitas Canadá" (When you visit Canada). The second is a picture of an open-air mine, with a stereotypical rich Brit clipart at the bottom, labeled "Cuando Canadá te visita" (When Canada visits you).

canada always firmly stood with the american imperialists for our own gain, i doubt south america would trust us just now that the US is starting to show us it’s back

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago

South America isn't a continent of primitivist environmentalists, either.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I disagree with this assessment.

I think that Carney was there for trade talks and refused to be side tracked from that and engage in discussions that were unrelated to the goal of improving trade relations between the USA and Canada.

He just sat there, and let Donny boy run his fat mouth, and when they got back on topic he suddenly had something to say.

Honestly, when I'm trying to have a productive conversation about something with someone and they veer off into insanity mid conversation, I usually just let them talk themselves out, then redirect them to the topic when they seem like they're done, so we can have productive discussions on the matter at hand.

Bluntly, there's no point arguing with the senile about their insane positions on anything, even if you get them to agree or change their viewpoint, in 15 minutes they'll forget and go back to their original bullshit.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How is that a disagreement?

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You made an assertion about his motivations, and I think his motivations are different.

Did that not come across?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 months ago

You said he was just letting him be crazy in peace because arguing is pointless, I said he's tolerating him. I think we both agree it's for the sake of trying to achieve an acceptable deal for Canada, right?

[–] n4ch1sm0@piefed.social 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Typical neolib capitulation- ahem I mean tolerance. That's worked great for the Americans, I'm sure it'll work for the Canadians /s

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Appeasement, if you’re nasty

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Antagonizing the US has worked great for Cuba after all.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Cuba actually had another friend willing to protect them for decades, even. We don't have a partner that would definitely always choose us over them.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did America have some sort of 10x larger neighbor I'm not aware of?

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They tolerated the bullshit trump did. At least that's how I read it.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, but that has nothing to do with my initial comment.

I basically said he's letting the foreign moron talk until he goes away. Unfortunately, I used the word "tolerate", and that triggered people's pre-programmed scripts about authorities allowing the domestic spread of genocide denial or whatever.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Tolerating Nazis has historically never worked.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Domestically? Yes.

Internationally, we're not Britain letting the Nazis build up, we're fucking Czechoslovakia just praying they don't decide to take the Sudetenland. The EU is probably Britain in this analogy, and the Soviets are, like, China.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Also:

Europe pls send help

[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right we should piss him off so he can fuck over the rest of our economy before we can transition our supply chains elsewhere. Brilliant.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Or just straight up invade to "save us" from our evil communist government.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm convinced they are planning some sort of annexation/invasion anyway. They'll just find a reason at some point. It can be anything. We have water and plenty of natural resources that would be good for American billionaires to own.

Just look at what Trump requires of Ukraine in order to help them. They're gonna make some bullshit up, like our resources are critical to their national security, or something like that. It's good to delay this as much as possible and not antagonize them - maybe they'll be busy invading Venezuela or Mexico first - but it's probably going to happen regardless.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago

It's not impossible, but I don't think this government plans all that much in general. And, they'd need to massage the public discourse for a bit first.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

They didn't lose any time. It's been a while now they've complained of drugs entering the US from Canada.

[–] yes_this_time@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the UK GDP was comparable to Germanies pre WW2 if that's what you are referring to. I agree with your point though. If I was Carney I wouldn't take it head on, but instead work behind the scenes to better position Canada.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Pre-WWI maybe. Wiemar Germany isn't know for it's awesome economy.

Which is why Britain never lost much ground despite letting them build up and prepare for a decade or whatever. And then the Nazis opened another front and got owned.