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[–] chris@lemmy.grey.fail 332 points 19 hours ago (40 children)

I've been putting it off, because it took me more than a year to migrate away from Gmail. But this is hard to ignore. I'm tired, fam.

[–] andrewrgross@lemmy.today 3 points 6 hours ago

I think I'm going to start using my own domain, so I can change hosts if needed without having to change email addresses. This seems like it's going to be an issue we'll always need to be prepared to deal with.

[–] recursivethinking@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

$1/month for a custom domain. One last migration. And then moving platforms is much easier because you don't need to change the email on every service.

That said, I still hear you.

[–] AcesFullOfKings@feddit.uk 155 points 19 hours ago (36 children)

Basically any company that you give money to is going to be lead by arseholes. By definition. The only easy way is self hosting but that has its own difficulties. (And even then it’s still hosted by an arsehole)

[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 187 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

The biggest dickhead I know runs my server.

[–] Seralth@piefed.seralth.com 28 points 16 hours ago

Could be worse, your servers could be ran by the same dipshit that runs mine! I swear nothing ever gets fixed on time!

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[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The only reasonably future proof solution is to get your own domain, and redirect emails sent to @yourdomain.com to your email provider.

Then you can freely change providers in the future but your email addresses stay the same. Doing that costs very little and doesn't require any self hosting, just buying a domain. Looks professional too.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

yes but doesnt that just get flagged as spam?

also many services require a google or apple address to be viable

The mx server ip will be from the email provider with thousands of whitelisted domains. You get lumped in with the rest and cosidered safe. Spam filters use Bayesian statistics, the logic is not what you expect.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago

No, your emails are still sent from your providers servers and are signed by Proton/Tuta/Gmail/whatever you choose to use. Your domain is the from: field but it was sent by the actual email provider with all the trust behind it.

I never ran into something requiring a Google/Apple address. Some may require a Google account, but you can create a Google account with any email address. You don't actually need to use Gmail on your Google account.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

yes but doesnt that just get flagged as spam?

If you're willing to run "mail-in-a-box", with full control of the DNS for your domain name, it sets up all of the security DNS records to not get flagged as spam.

If you're unwilling or unable to let mail-in-a-box control the full DNS for your domain, mail-in-a-box still has a page that will list every DNS record that needs add to your un-self-hosted DNS. It is many many DNS records, for best spam protection.

My other concern was receiving spam.

But the default spam filter in mail-in-a-box felt immediately noticeably (but just anecdotally) better than the one built into Proton. Which surprised me. I had assumed that I would give up some spam filter quality by self-hosting.

[–] craneum_@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago

Custom domain without self hosting still requires you to use an email provider, could even be google. The only problem is if you self host and don't rely on trusted proxies, at which point it depends on the reputation of the IP/Domain etc.

[–] chris@lemmy.grey.fail 48 points 19 hours ago (20 children)

Though, I learned my lesson and bought my own domain. So this pivot should be better.

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[–] Australis13@fedia.io 19 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, it's taken me a similar time to migrate away from Gmail and I'm not keen to repeat the process. But if this is what Proton's code quality control is going to be like going forward - employees forced to push improperly-tested code because of their unhinged CEO - I'm going to have to go through the whole process again. Sigh.

[–] recarsion@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 16 hours ago

Same exact situation. In fact I'm not even fully done migrating away from Gmail although most of my stuff is on Proton now. sigh I guess I'm starting all over again soon.

[–] madmantis24@lemmy.wtf 1 points 9 hours ago

Coincidentally I was thinking about cancelling just for the financial benefit since I will be making significantly less money soon

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