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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I hope MS doesn't start doing this to Windows or else that would kill WINE/Proton, and also severely harm Windows itself given how deeply sideloading exes or msi files is ingrained into that OS.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Why would Linux have to respect the certificates? Run whatever random software you want!

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

maybe it could even turn out to be a sometimes useful measure there with the slight change of placing the decision in the hands of the user.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't the old arm version of windows have this limitation though? It only ran signed exes with a chain of trust?

I feel like this is probably where things might be heading overall "for our safety". People saying it's only the pixel. It's only the pixel so far. And I think Samsung are locking up bootloaders too. I fully expect both to become the norm.

Oh you'll be able to get a phone that isn't locked this way. With 4 generations out of date hardware at twice the price of the current flagship because it's a niche product they just can not make at scale to be affordable.

Also I've said it elsewhere, local/personal compute is something I fully expect to become a rare and expensive hobby too.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

And custom-built PCs are already getting priced further and further out of the market for everyone who isn't rich; mini PCs are slowly taking over the budget segments, and even some of the mid-range as well.

Next step if it's allowed to get that far would be locking out alternate OSes after upgradeable PCs are all but eliminated except for HEDT.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 7 hours ago

They could lock out any other os but windows if they wanted. Mobo makers just need to limit to secure boot only, not allow legacy boot. Only allow the Microsoft key and Microsoft to stop signing the Linux shim. Then it'd not be possible to install Linux or anything else really.

Not going to happen short term. But definitely a possibility.