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Not sure if optimism or naïveté.
It's neither - I'm just pointing out how the game is played
There is no more game. Either we destroy every part of Project 2025, and we imprison all the people involved. And that means 90% of the MAGApublicans.
it isnt a game, when its one side that holds all the cards, pushing an unfavorable legislation isnt going to help dems get re-elected in the house.
In what way am I entitled? In what way am I gloating?
I understand the stakes, and I hate what the country has become. It is disgusting that republicans are using people who rely on SNAP and healthcare subsidies as pawns to advance this stupid agenda that's making life worse for the majority of the country.
Instead of hurling insults at someone analyzing the situation, maybe you could educate yourself on political game theory. Perhaps then you'll understand where I'm coming from in referring to politics as a game.
Did you miss the part where all of this was said before they caved, and the proposal was to extend healthcare subsidies for a year as a compromise to reopen the government? Which would give dems what they asked for while forcing the debate during midterms?
Maybe this will help you understand
Sorry, did me pointing out how you're getting mad at someone on the same side as you for analyzing the situation upset you?
Maybe take your own advice, twatwaffle
First and foremost, I'm very liberal. I've also pointed out in this thread and other other comments on this post that I am firmly against the pause on SNAP benefits, among other things.
The original proposal was to extend healthcare subsidies for a year as a compromise to agree to the budget. I've pointed out, in this thread and others, why that's a good idea - it reopens the government, which means government employees will finally be paid, it gets SNAP funds moving again, and it extends the healthcare subsidies which can be a talking point to motivate voters in the next election (which would then hopefully mean laws would be passed to ensure affordable healthcare to everyone). Again, all of this was based on that proposal, and before dems caved to the budget as it stands.
Think about this for a moment - by having the government shut down, and not compromising on anything, more people will go hungry and die and more people fall below the poverty line. That is what your position enables - the exact opposite of what you're saying you stand for.
Would it be great if the republicans caved first? Absolutely, without a doubt. But, with the number of congresspeople under trumps thumb, and with the strategies being suggested (like ending the filibuster), that was unlikely.
Instead of considering all of that, you've made all sorts of assumptions about me, and did your best to insult me.
I'm sorry you're frustrated with the state of the world right now. I am too, along with millions of others. We might not agree on a path forward, but at least we can agree that none of what's happening is okay and that things need to change