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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You're so confidently incorrect. China does have voting and democratic structutes. They have the largest elections in the entire world. Further, they have eliminated absolute poverty, and year over year have steadily improved living conditions across the country.

You have no sources, no points. You vaguely gesture to "atrocities" and "officials living above the law," without any concrete examples. I give numerous facts and statistics, the blog post I linked is a compilation of peer reviewed studies and other metrics.

China isn't free from negatives, the fact that I disagree with your blatant misconceptions like claiming China has no democracy doesn't mean I don't acknowledge their actual faults, such as the sluggish (but still positive) progress on implementing more LGBTQIA+ protections. I deny the absurdities you claim.

To answer your questions:

  1. China is democratic, and I gave many sources from both China and western firms confirming it.

  2. As answered in 1, China is democratic. I support democracy.

All in all, most people are receptive to what I have to say. You in particular opened with ableist attacks (that you keep repeating, I might add), dehumanization of me by comparing me to an LLM, and an utter refusal to engage with the points or sources I bring up. I doubt I'll be able to convince you in particular, but I also doubt you'd listen to anyone that isn't already repeating what you say.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You have no sources, no points. You vaguely gesture to “atrocities” and “officials living above the law,” without any concrete examples. I give numerous facts and statistics, the blog post I linked is a compilation of peer reviewed studies and other metrics.

TBF, on Reddit they never needed facts, studies, or evidence to browbeat and win fake internet points.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

Fair, just felt it was important to highlight for them. They aren't going to change their minds this time, but in the future when others keep showing them similar points because reality is oriented that way they may finally reconsider.