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[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The honesty of Nazis is a peculiar thing. In Sweden, the far-right party that the government collaborates with, who were started by literal ex-SS nazis and neo-nazis, have celebrated other ex-SS nazis, have worn swaztikas and so on. They have this "sociologist" guy whose argument for this party not being nazis anymore is basically "Look at Golden Dawn and other nazi organizations, they are open about them being nazis. Nazis are honest about being nazis. That is why the Sweden Democrats cannot be nazis, because if they were, they'd be open about it".

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which is fucking stupid because the Nazis initially weren't honest about being Nazis. There's a reason they called it National Socialism and not National Killjews-ism.

[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And every dumb fuck magat clings to that National Socialist name, unable to read any more about how right wing Nazis are.

They're the Reich wing for a reason.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I mean they did support socialism but only for other Nazis. Pointing that out isn't an attack on socialism, it was just part of the Nazi identity.

If people want to demonize socialism or jump to the conclusion that socialism=Nazism, then feel free to call them an idiot for being an idiot.

However, now more than ever, it is very important that people be aware of the fact that national socialism was a very important aspect of the Nazi party because we are seeing Trump et al., using the same playbook.

National socialism means you can have access to health care, you can have housing, you can have a social safety net, "as long as you are one of us."

For example, the Trump administration literally wants to give "American families" money to allow one parent to stay home and take care of kids, instead of both parents working full time and paying for childcare. Sounds awesome. That would be a great thing for a country to offer all parents raising children. However, it's not going to be offered to everyone. It will only be offered to traditional two parent households. That means gay parents, blended families, single parents etc., basically anyone who doesn't fit their view of what an American family is supposed to look like, will not be eligible to receive this assistance.

The social safety net offered by National Socialists acts as an incentive to in-group. It's the promise of the kind of life you will receive if you join us. It's what you could have had this whole time if not for the out-group, "them". They are the reason America can't be great, but if you join us and help to get rid of them, we can make it great again.

Spoiler, the idealized "again" they promise never actually existed. It's prefigurative tradtionalism. They're projecting an idealized and fictional nostalgia on to the past. Even when white protestant men were the only group allowed to flourish, a class based caste system, which still exists to this day, kept the same families and friends of those families in power by exploiting everyone else.

Step 1: Hoard more resources than you can ever use in a lifetime, use the hoarded resources to control everyone else, continue to exploit the people you control and add to your hoarded resources, then let the exploited blame each other when the resources you're hoarding run thin for them, but not you. Pass the hoarded resources down to your offspring and teach them that your superior bloodline allows for favorable traits and values not possessed by the unwashed masses.

Step 2: Create an in-group. Ensure the exploited don't stop fighting amongst themselves long enough to notice what you're doing by picking an arbitrary measurement like skin color, and pretend that you and a segment of the people you exploit are more alike than the rest of the unwashed masses. Allow just enough privileges to keep the in-group happy enough to believe the lie. If they start to ask too many questions about why there don't seem be enough resources to go around no matter how hard they work, blame the out-group.

Step 3: Promise the in-group their lives would be so much better if they eliminated the out-group so you don't have to dip into your hoarded resources to keep them happy and distracted. Continue the cycle of exploitation, hoarding, and distraction.

"Democracy is incompatible with freedom," because "freedom"= you being free to labor under an exploitative ruling class that you will never be allowed to compete with. That's also why you're not supposed to go to college and think too much, or ask too many questions about why there seems to be so many repetitive cycles in history, politics, and human behavior.

Look at the incentive offered to ICE agents. The economy is in shambles, people are being laid off left and right. Previously protected government jobs are being destroyed. However, ICE is hiring. No degree, no experience necessary, huge sign on bonus, plus benefits. You get to make more than you ever dreamed of in any other line of work. You just have to be willing to help us round them up so we can make America great again.