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Mozilla’s Betrayal of Open Source: Google’s Gemini AI is Overwriting Volunteer Work on Support Mozilla (www.quippd.com)
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TL;DR: Mozilla’s translation bot on Support Mozilla (that is currently overwriting user contributions is based on the closed source, copyright infringing LLM, Google Gemini. This is in spite of Mozilla claiming that they are at the forefront of open source AI, and belies their exhortations to choose to build open source AI and data sets. Although Mozilla has experience in attracting open contributions for data sets in projects like Common Voice, Mozilla is using a closed data set to overwrite open contributions. Since (paid) Gemini queries do not train the model, Mozillians can expect to correct errors every time the bot automatically updates an article.

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[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Out of curiosity, how are Konqueror and Falkon relates to the big three?

Their websites say they use KHTML or KDEWebkit (Konqueror) or QtWebEngine (falkon). Are these downstream adaptations of apple-WebKit?

Judging by the QtWebEngine page, it doesn't explicitly say it, but I think it is based on chromium.

Konqueror is a bit harder to figure out. Maybe QtWebKit. Is this also Chromium?

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Apple’s WebKit (WebCore+JavaScriptCore) was originally a fork of KHTML/KJS. They shared at the beginning but not very well. They eventually opened up their source and made changes that were more friendly to other developers. A lot of browsers and embedded renderers use WebKit, now, besides Safari and KDE based ones.

Google forked WebCore for Chromium. I don’t think they share a codebase, anymore. Edge, Opera and many embedded renderers use Chromium.

Anyway, I just think it’s interesting that most every browser out there is descended from KHTML.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Yes, they are both WebKit, though largely irrelevant. Personally, I'm a daily KDE user. I did install falkon out of Curiosity for a short while. But neither it or konqueror are generally in any distributions base install. Including KDE neon.

They are usable, so long as you don't use any sort of add-ons.

Falkon is based on Qt web. So it is also WebKit.

Correction Falkon and Qt web engine are indeed chromium. Konqueror alone then would be WebKit

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

QtWebEngine is Chromium, not Apple WebKit

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 3 days ago

Ah you are correct. Thanks for the correction. I may have read otherwise, somewhere, but who knows that may have been an AI-tinted site. It's been a hot minute since I last messed with programming using QT. I could have sworn it was webkit but the facts are the facts.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wish Firefox was better integrated into KDE. Whenever I open a link in a different app, Firefox opens the link but stays in the background where it seems like it should come to the foreground.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 3 days ago

Yes, that and the GTK window decorations are a slight annoyance as well.