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    [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    That's a bit extreme. I keep a windows install around, just in case. It's just not in grub; I have to get into the bios boot menu and manually select it.

    [–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (4 children)

    Is dual booting really that common? Whenever I need to test something on windows I just use a vm

    [–] highball@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    Probably just the recent converts that are still 1 foot in and 1 foot out. I don't keep a Windows VM. If something ever came up over the years, I have to decide if it's worth setting up a VM. I think even 3 years back, I was able to update my PS5 controller loading up the update tool in WINE (Bottles). Didn't even need a Windows VM then.

    [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 3 points 5 days ago

    There are a lot of cases where windows is preferable or easier to deal with, I think just nuking it is more common with recent converts (I lolled a bit at this turn of phrase). You probably can do everything with wine + vm, bit I just can't be bothered with passtrough and shit for the latter and update problems and requirement for 32-bit libraries of the former.

    [–] khar21@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago (4 children)

    Is there a good word editor on Linux? Because libre office qt lags crazy on plasma wayland, doesn't have auto lists, or horizontal line, requires an extra package for spell check, and OnlyOffice is missing basic formatting, like horizontal lines, has memory leak issues too, and doesn't even allow selecting multiple words at a time. Srsly double clicking selects a word, but dragging unselects it.

    [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

    Because libre office qt lags crazy on plasma wayland

    Ok, you've got something going on with your system. If LibreOffice and VMs are lagging on your system then something isn't right.

    [–] highball@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

    You probably want to ask a Pro Office user. I've just used Libre Office. Worked fine for my papers in school and edits my resume just fine.

    [–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    I just use Typst for everything these days, but if you really want a gui thing there's always the web version of google docs and ms office

    [–] khar21@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

    Google docs and word online dont have many advanced features unfortunately.

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Something is broken on your system. Libre office works fine on all other machines.

    [–] khar21@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    There's literally open issues about the lag, im talking about. And even if that didn't exist. It's just bad. It's not intuitive, it doesn't have any of the convenience features that MS word has.

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

    It’s just bad. It’s not intuitive, it doesn’t have any of the convenience features that MS word has.

    Maybe, maybe not.

    The last version ow MS Word I used was Word 2.0c. I quit using it because it was completely broken whenever the file got a bit large. I switched to Linux at that time and used office suites on that platform (that was before libre/open office, even before StarOffice I think, I ran Applix at the time), none of them I've ever had issues with.

    [–] khar21@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Every VM I've tried are horrendously laggy.

    [–] three@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

    Are you providing the guest a proper amount of system resources?

    [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

    These days I might do that. The thing is, I'm coming from a situation where windows was installed, fully setup and configured with whatever I needed, so it was way easier to just run that than to redo everything and setup a VM.

    Also, the last piece of software I need is something used to bypass DRMs, and it kinda requires the whole thing to work flawlessly. I'll see when I come around to launch it again if it's viable.

    [–] coolman@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

    I keep a windows partition on an external SSD solely to play League πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

    I used to have windows installed for years back when I first stated using Linux... But it grew to where I never booted it again, so now I just use a VM in the increasingly rare cases certain software doesn't work on Linux.

    [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    That's a bit extreme

    It really isn't. That's like saying "I keep a bottle of anthrax in my pocket just in case". It just doesn't you any good! (Yes, it's a facetious example)

    But seriously, if you need Windows for something every so often, just setup a VM. Safer, cleaner, can't mess up your host.

    [–] khar21@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

    Windows VMs don't perform well, maybe virtio can fix their awful drivers, but until then that's a waste of time.

    Sorry for being crude, but I hate the linux culty gaslighting.

    [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    It depends what you're using it for. If it's gaming, then it's a no. But OP above didn't say gaming. A Windows VM is fine for general tasks, but that naturally depends on the host system and how many resources you give the VM.

    [–] khar21@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

    The performance is horrible for me, even for simple things like word processing, the cursor lag and choppyness makes it extremely frustrating for me.

    Ive tried virtio, qxl, vga, and rdp. Rdp is the only one that's usable for me and it's still awful.

    The only time it hasn't been bad for me is with GPU passthrough, but that's a huge pain, and I'd rather dual boot instead.

    [–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    That's not normal. That suggests some issue in the virtualization config, or maybe your proc doesn't support virtualization or something.

    Aside from graphically heavy things, a VM should only incur a minor overhead compared to the host. Word processing should function just fine.

    [–] khar21@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

    Edit: ok, so I just tried setting up a windows vm again, and it's much faster now, animations are still a bit laggy, but changing some windows and libvirt settings improved performance by a lot. ig it was skill issue? even virtio didn't have the resolution issue I had before, somehow

    The libre office issue is literally a known bug https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152911 and https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/libreoffice-performance-issues-on-linux/114920 etc.

    With the VM, I've tried on my laptop (framework 16), my 8600k desktop with rx 580, and gtx 1080

    12700k with gtx 1080 and 6700 xt

    9800x3d with rx 9070 xt.

    Lots of others have the same issues, so please don't gaslight me.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/qemu_kvm/comments/11m9a4x/why_is_the_virtmanager_display_so_slow/

    https://github.com/virt-manager/virt-manager/issues/645

    virtio NEVER lets me pick my native resolution either. This has been an issue on all my devices, and has persisted throughout all my PC upgrades.

    Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but it doesn't help that the documentation is so non-existent for what to pick and the specifics for each xml options.

    Btw I got the rdp tip from here, and rdp actually allows my native 4k resolution https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/1fcs0kj/virtmanager_better_fps/