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    [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago

    I had no idea things were that absurd, that bad. I've not really used windows for over 2 decades. Many of the comments here are unintentionally funny. And tragic. In a Stockholm Syndrome sort of way.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 92 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    Just don't have windows installed.

    [–] highball@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    Yep, you learn how to get things done. If your goal is to use something that's strictly for Windows, then probably you should be using Windows. Same as MacOS, same as Linux, and same as any other OS out there. Same things could be said for touch screen vs. MnK vs. controller.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 7 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    Or at least virtualize it. With USB and PCIe passthrough, you can basically use Windows for anything but direct access to some PC components (Everything not connected via USB and PCIe, so only the MB iirc), and (many) games (if you don't have a second, just-working GPU for an VFIO-Passtrough)

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    [–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

    games are technically almost all strictly for windows...

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    [–] galaxy_nova@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (11 children)

    I have windows specifically for one game with shitty anti cheat, I don’t like it but it is what is is.

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    [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (8 children)

    That's a bit extreme. I keep a windows install around, just in case. It's just not in grub; I have to get into the bios boot menu and manually select it.

    [–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    Is dual booting really that common? Whenever I need to test something on windows I just use a vm

    [–] highball@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (9 children)

    Probably just the recent converts that are still 1 foot in and 1 foot out. I don't keep a Windows VM. If something ever came up over the years, I have to decide if it's worth setting up a VM. I think even 3 years back, I was able to update my PS5 controller loading up the update tool in WINE (Bottles). Didn't even need a Windows VM then.

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    I used to have windows installed for years back when I first stated using Linux... But it grew to where I never booted it again, so now I just use a VM in the increasingly rare cases certain software doesn't work on Linux.

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    [–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 49 points 5 days ago (4 children)

    "wow, I haven't been booted in months, better get those updates going"

    [–] Mechanite@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    I had this happen, and I updated, and now explorer doesn't start or launch when I log in. I don't use windows enough to justify reinstalling, so I just have a half broken windows install chilling in my PC

    [–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago

    That's exactly how my last copy of Windows retired itself.

    [–] Lord743@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago
    [–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

    It’s been over 200 days since I switched over… I bet windows would crash if I booted and tried to update

    [–] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    No more updates for me , I'm staying with 10 since I rarely use windows and v11 is not worth the hassle.

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    [–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 4 points 5 days ago

    starts smoking while you hear rocks being ground up

    [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 57 points 5 days ago (6 children)

    Also when you intentionally boot into windows and it requires at least 7 years and 9 reboots before getting ready.

    [–] bstix@feddit.dk 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Then after seemingly working it suddenly starts lagging again, and I check the task manager and see Microsoft Office hogging all the resources and filling the RAM, but I don't even have Microsoft Office.

    [–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

    Windows Search Service (or whatever it's called). Every time my VM completely locks up, it's that fucker.

    Thankfully, I can then just switch back to butter-smooth Linux for a while to do another task while Windows un-fucks itself.

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    [–] r00ty@kbin.life 46 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    More than 51 years if there's one of those updates that will randomly decide to overwrite the UEFI removing your bootloader entirely :P

    [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago

    This is why it’s always best β€” if you absolutely must have Windows β€” to keep it quarantined on its own drive.

    [–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    Soooo, you guys don’t have a reset button on your computer orrr?

    And no I’m not fun at parties

    [–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Yeah, If I don’t catch the train, I also just uninstall the rails and hope for the best.

    [–] untorquer@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

    To be fair the train equivalent of windows would crash either way.

    [–] untorquer@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

    Me pressing the reset button...

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    [–] Cabbage_Pout61@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    I see some comments trashing dual boot, I really don't understand why. I have really nice setup with Debian 12 and Windows 10. Boot pc, get to work on Linux, and other projects after. When I'm done and want to game a bit I switch to windows.

    I have no need to setup funky VMs to bypass games made strictly for windows, and also don't have performance limitations.

    Just use the right tool for the right job folks.

    [–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    I see some comments trashing dual boot, I really don't understand why.

    Back when I dual booted, every Windows update was a dice roll whether and how it would decide to fuck up my dual boot setup.

    Sometimes it decides to "fix" grub. Sometimes it wanted to encrypt something new to protect me from all the theives that wander through my living room. Sometimes Windows just had an update that was 1000% sure that Windows was the default boot entry, and so doing something extremely sensitive and rebooting to finish without telling the user, should be fine.

    Windows under dual boot, for me, was like having a fragile semi-suicidal pet. I found myself doing constant research to rescue it from itself.

    Eventually I did let it die.

    So I'm not mad at it, exactly. I'm just over it.

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    [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

    If you need that for aggressive anticheat stuff to run, that makes total sense. I personally don't need it since proton is so good, but I also don't understand why anyone would hate on you for that.

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    [–] ezeno789@piefed.social 23 points 5 days ago
    [–] unphazed@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    I'm lazy, I let it load automatically on 5s to Bazzite. One of these days I'll have to put forth effort into loading Windows (also, I am intentionally trying to use Linux over Windows, learning new stuff as I go)

    [–] KernelTale@programming.dev 4 points 5 days ago

    I have my grub set to 1s to Mint. Because of that I keep on accidentally booting to Windows like once a week.

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    [–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Idk what i did wrong but my dual boot system just doesn't show windows so I can never accidentally boot into it. I have to f12 to get to windows. Im sure thats a red flag somehow lol.

    [–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (15 children)

    os-probe, the thing that suppose to help grub mkconfig auto-detect windows boot menu entry, is by default disabled in /etc/default/grub.

    You need to:

    • Make sure os-prober is installed
    • Uncomment GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false in /etc/default/grub
    • probably restart for good measure
    • Find out which disk partition holds your EFI system partition
    • mount that partition on /boot
    • run grub mkconfig and override /boot/grub/grub.cfg
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    [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 4 days ago

    You got Windows on a HDD or something? The longest part of booting my PC, no matter what OS I boot into, is the BIOS splash screen and energystar thingy.

    [–] comrade19@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

    I think this when you're finished for the night and you see: Update and shut down (4 minutes). Now you lay in bed while your computer boots back to windows for 15 minutes.

    [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

    I remember those pre-SSD days! If I spin up a minimum specs VM, it’s kinda like that (which I did at least five times over the weekend). Nowadays you can load Windows pretty fast. Updates might take 10 minutes though!

    [–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    These days Windows boots really fast to the login screen (which has a reboot option).

    If you log in, it'll start loading all the usual shit, and that will take a few moments on SSD. (And a few geological megacycles on a HDD.)

    [–] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Only if you have a swap partition, and if you dual-boot then that swap partition is gonna be overwritten all the time.

    [–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    What

    Linux swap partitions have no bearing on Windows boot times. Or Windows in general. Windows doesn't care about partitions it doesn't recognise. (It might, on occasion, fuck with the bootloader though, but I hear it's a little bit less of a headache in UEFI days)

    [–] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Fast-boot normally involves saving Windows to a swap partition and basically just half-hibernating. If that swap partition is shared with Linux it'd get overwritten and the boot method would swap to the slower one.

    As far as I know there's no way to make a swap partition be exclusive to Linux or vice-versa.

    [–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

    Ah, I thought Windows always used its own paging file thing located on the Windows NTFS drive, and couldn't be made to use Linux swap.

    If so, enabling that thing probably isn't a good idea if you are dual booting, yes. Can see all sorts of problems coming from that.

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