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    [–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    That sounds VERY unlikely. I’m gonna need a source for that (with vanguard) or I’m calling bullshit

    [–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

    i found this https://github.com/zhaodice/qemu-anti-detection which supports EAC and others but not vanguard. looks quite easy to use compared to what ive seen before.

    i think ive seen ones that support vanguard before. i think vanguard needs a host kernel patch to mitigate, so it doesn't detect the vm by measuring timing or something.

    you would have to look around a bit but i'm sure it still exists. as long as it is still our machines, there will be ways around it, else cheaters would not exist. it just requires you to participate in the cat mouse game.

    [–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    EAC is notoriously less invasive than vanguard. The repo you linked doesn’t even have a fraction of what you’d need to hide from vanguard.

    There are SO many things to hide. In theory it sounds possible, in practice just not.

    To name a few, you’d have to hide:

    • cpu jitter/latency
    • interrupt behavior
    • page table behavior
    • msr access
    • cache invalidation patterns
    • IOMMU
    • PCIe inconsistencies
    • boot sequence
    • driver timing
    • CPUID

    And so much more. It’s almost impossibly hard to hide all that. Even if you could, a tiny mistake at one point or a stealth update and you’re banned.

    In comparison, avoiding vanguard and cheating on a legit windows machine is trivial. DMA cards are expensive but impossible to detect. DP/HDMI + mouse hooks are another impossible to detect option.

    [–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

    yes, i said as much. vanguard iirc needs cpu jitter and driver timing adjustments, and i found a patched kernel for it at some point. at least last i checked, this might have changed. and yea, depending on how aggressive the company is, expect your accounts to be disposable.

    i've heard of the dp/hdmi thing and it's so funny to me how they pour resources into it without being able to block cheaters at all.

    [–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Well they’re still able to block 99% of the “script kiddies” that just download a cheat to feel better about themselves. I feel like besides at the top 0.01%, this is by far the largest portion of cheaters.

    [–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    tbf 99% of cheats are paid anyway nowadays, and windows cheating is cheaper.