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It's not a nazi bar because there is the occasional nazi in it. It's a nazi bar because it's led by a nazi, applies nazi standards and moderation, and therefore attracts nazis.
That owner is 1 person. This Nazi bar argument does nothing for the multitude of people left behind in an increasingly right-wing bubble because the "morally righteous" are too stuck-up or cowardly to make a stand with rational debate & deradicalizing influence where it's needed.
If Nazi standards & moderation means less policing of hate speech, we don't get that in the public square, either, yet the public is quite capable of denouncing & arguing against it there. Actual Nazis in Nazi regalia have marched & spoken there. Is the public square a Nazi bar? Moderation simply isn't needed for better voices to prevail.
Moreover, there are plenty of anti-Nazis there who stay to defend morality. Much like the rest of the world, there is also much going on there that isn't Nazi-related. Nazi bar is just a rationalization for cowards to surrender & seek comfort, because when the immoral aren't silenced, they aren't willing to seriously challenge immorality where it matters.