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AI’s Unpaid Debt: How LLM Scrapers Destroy the Social Contract of Open Source (www.quippd.com)
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TL;DR: The big tech AI company LLMs have gobbled up all of our data, but the damage they have done to open source and free culture communities are particularly insidious. By taking advantage of those who share freely, they destroy the bargain that made free software spread like wildfire.

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[–] gringoaleatorio@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

a bit more culturally mature in the sense of diversity of philosophy.

More culturally mature in which ways? Very curious to read anything about it.

Let's not conflate having values with having made contributions.

Yes sure, but a contribution is already a statement in itself. I don't mind if the person is "not good". I'd be tempted to answer you by quoting you (without attempting to make it cryptic or cynical): life is indeed complex. There's like an infinity of viewpoints on why people contribute to foss, but I think if people do, it's because they're getting value out of it, and as a result, the whole community does. Most foss contributors mind that.

Now if you keep alluding to deeper points without actually making them, I don't see what I'd gain by continuing this conversation.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

More culturally mature in which ways? Very curious to read anything about it.

I think I've already said that.

Say, if someone is a very good programmer, that doesn't mean they are better than a random drunk on any other subject.

But in FOSS they usually assume otherwise.

OK, it's not scene being more mature than FOSS, it's scene being normal and FOSS being less mature than in general.

There’s like an infinity of viewpoints on why people contribute to foss, but I think if people do, it’s because they’re getting value out of it, and as a result, the whole community does. Most foss contributors mind that.

Yes, well, that objective value direction is too a limitation. I've been reading one good book recently, still under impression (and probably will be for much longer). There are no good architects without bad architects, no good poetry without bad poetry, and no good contributions without bad contributions. And about usefulness for the whole community - a good system serves each and every use, not the majority use.

Similar to inclusiveness, except it's ideological and not racial\medical.

In FOSS even something like PulseAudio or SystemD is spread by pressure. No, it really doesn't matter which advantages they have in someone's system of values or in all systems of values possible to describe. Only the pressure matters while it shouldn't be there.