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Nothing makes me more interested in socialism than when conservatives explain all the awful things that are socialism. Universal healthcare, you say? Free education? Feeding children and homeless people? Tell me more about how terrible socialism is... I'm almost there....
None of that is socialism. Can we just stop with the capitalistic propaganda?
Those are social programs not socialism.
I get your point but you are not helping the cause by misinforming people about what socialism is.
Socialism is democracy in the workplace. It's not single-payer Healthcare.
You missed my point a bit. They are promoting socialism by using that label as a scare tactic for anything remotely good for people — but instead of scaring people off social programs, it just makes socialism (largely unrelated to the actual programs) sound attractive.
We are in total agreement. This is a reaction to misinformation, not the spreading of it — if people fail to understand the subtext, they aren't going to get what I'm laying down in any case.
I'll grant it's probably more obscure in this post than I generally am about this point.
Be honest with people. You called social programs socialism. I get what you are saying but this needs to stop.
I mean, it's both...
Not at all.
Socialism is when workers control the means of production.
Single-payer Healthcare or socialized medicine is a social program.
They are not the same at all.
Are you sure that's not communism? These terms have really taken a beating.
State socialism is supposed to be this in between thing where you have to have one party for a bit and then the state "naturally erodes" to nothing and you have full gay space communism.
In other words, the theory relies on people giving up amassed power that they had to "temporarily" wield over other folks.
It's funny because the natural erosion never occurs and it predictably winds up becoming an authoritarian shit state. Just like what predictably occurs under unchecked capitalism is fascism.
All that said, even dictators have to care about public opinion a bit, because otherwise they might end up with their head in a guillotine in act 3.