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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 117 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Pritzker said the Trump administration has begun staging the Texas National Guard for deployment in Illinois.

So he's not gonna try to nationalize Illinois' Guard, he's gonna use the Texas guard and deploy it to Illinois? That seems all sorts of wrong. It makes it more like an invading force....

I wonder if Pritzker has the balls to deploy the Illinois National Guard to prevent them from entering?

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, the Roman military used to do the same. Lots of places they conquered, they'd recruit soldiers. But they'd always deploy those units in other places. Turns out, it's easier to brutalise people who aren't your neighbours.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The Chinese and Soviets did it all the time as well. Very common tactic to control resistance.

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 37 points 2 days ago

It's a lot easier to shoot people who you don't identify as your fellow churchgoers and friendly neighbors especially when they demonize blue cities to subhuman levels for at least the last 40 years.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Time for California to invade Texas while they are gone.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That would be an actual act of rebellion and kick off an incredibly destructive war. He's far more likely to encourage nonviolent resistance and to try and get guardsmen from Texas to defect

[–] grue@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That would be an actual act of rebellion and kick off an incredibly destructive war.

Let's be very fucking clear about this: Pritzker deploying the Illinois national guard would be an entirely justified and very legal act of defense. Trump attacking the state using the Texas guard is the act of war.

Justifiable absolutely. But justification doesn't win wars or stop death.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or maybe deploy Illinois guard 1:1 for every Texas Guard member they send. Put body cams on all of them, too, streaming live....

deploying your military on your own population is one of the last things you want to do as a commander

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"No units have been activated and we do not have an order or preparatory command for any mission," deputy director of public affairs for Illinois National Guard William Grove tells Axios.

Saw this from 3 hours ago, looking like that's not planned.

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Civil war lets go!

(I don’t like war, just in case that it was not clear)

[–] Tangerine@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

If we end up in a civil war, does that mean election is cancelled?
This is the only ~~reliable~~ piece I can find online:

In order for a federal election to be postponed, Congress would have to enact an amendment to the 1845 federal law and the president would have to sign it. The chances of that occurring are very slim since the House of Representatives is controlled by Democrats, the Senate by the Republicans and the Executive Branch also by a Republican. Even if Congress and the president agreed on postponing an election, a judicial challenge would be likely.

From:

https://bbklaw.com/resources/postponing-a-presidential-election-and-the-law

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Postponing an election has never been done in the history of the Republic. Not even when we were at war. Not even when we were at war with ourselves....

.... So, when they do it, I expect the Supreme Court to uphold it with a 5-4 margin claiming that they had a personal seance with George Washington, who told them that this is what he had in mind all along

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Republicans hold a majority in both houses of Congress right now

[–] Tangerine@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 2 days ago

Thank you, just found it: Republicans 220, Democrats 215.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Most of us do. Still kinda seems like it's where we're headed though

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago

I think the Illinois guard will be busy invading the White House..

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

I wonder if Pritzker has the balls to deploy the Illinois National Guard to prevent them from entering?

They'll just help the texans.