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Ice obtains access to Israeli-made spyware that can hack phones and encrypted apps
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 02 Sep 2025
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For the Democrats/liberals who think they're leftist in the room, note that this done by Biden, how it was put on hold for review so that news spread and pacifies the anger, and how it came back stronger when you forgot about it. And now Democrats will shrug and say "Trump is in charge, we're powerles."
Democrats are not your friends, they are not a lesser evil, we need a revolution.
Based on what has already happened, I'd definitely say Dems are the lesser evil. That's literally what this means in this context. Still evil, just not as much as Donald dump.
Not defending democrats here, but it says it was halted pending reviews. I would say at least the democrats have some sense of following rules, while under the Trump administration, these were immediately lifted.
Make of it what you will, but it’s pretty clear that following the laws/rules is a thing of the past in the US of A.
They have theatrics, it would have ended up the same way if Biden/Harris won. Democrats (Biden) introduced it in the first place, and your instinct is still to believe they opposed it?
A revolution against the democrats who aren't in power.
Bold.
They are acting like controlled opposition, it's as obvious as your face in a mirror.
They're obviously not in it for democracy, not good for us and we need change, but that doesn't make the "not a lesser evil comment" read any less tone-deaf.
What about against leadership
¿Por qué no los dos?
That's not what I said.
So a revolt against trump, I like it!
The establishment dems still think they are playing good cop to Republican bad cop in 1990, even as the Republicans are openly playing Hitler now. Without getting new popular reform minded leadership there is no way we can take the country from this aspiring one party state.
Dems didn't invent ice.
Nor Epstein
Nor trump.
Voters need to take some culpability to their own mistakes here and stop blaming it on anyone else but themselves for this shit show they created.
ICE was created by the Homeland Security Act of 2002, which passed with overwhelming bipartisan support. 90-9 in the senate and 42 Yeas came from Dems.
The Democratic Leadership knew the position we were in, yet they still refused to run a popular campaign offering any real reforms or attacking anyone increasingly gouging us and ran as the status quo while the Republicans ran as reform.
We all knew the voters did not know better. The responsibility is in the establishments corner. Three presidential shit shows in a row and they are brushing off the old Hillary Clinton excuses blaming voters as if that would justify letting them stay in control of the party.
Blaming dems for what republicans do is some mental gymnastics.
By running as they do they doom us to the Republicans. I do not see how that is hard for you to understand. Being better than the other guy is not enough to win elections, you should have realized that in 2016 at the latest, yet here we are approaching 2028 and you are still advocating for this doomed to fail policy despite being one election away from a permanently rigged system for a one-party state?
And make no mistake it will be rigged every way it can be but 2028 we have a chance to take it from them in the succession fight. Not with the establishment leaders we have though.
“Doom us to republicans”
No this is bullshit as you’re choosing to vilify one for what the other is doing. If you blame your mistake on choosing worse for yourself and blame someone for your choice it is you to blame. It’s what enablers do to protect their abuser. You are speaking like a Stockholm syndrome right now.
This. This is why you’re rigged right now. This is all on you for not holding republicans accountable for doing what they do. Blaming dems isn’t going to save you. You’re nothing more than an idiot if you thought this victimhood bullshit was ever going to get you saved rn. Do better.
You framing everyone as is critical of the opposition party as voting for the party and Power gives lie to your argument. That is an ad hominem you learned from the party in power and the opposition party.
And you did not answer the point, it is unanswerable so it makes sense you resort to ad hominems. By not being popular and running as the status quo in an Ever devolving plutocracy, the Democrats Doom us to Republican rule. That is evident.
It's funny how one immigrant country is "securing homeland" from another immigrant country. At some point in the late XIX century US, Argentina, Brazil seemed similarly attractive directions for the "give me your tired ..." thing.
I had two books called "anthology of romantic and adventure", pretty much only centered around sea travel, it had both poetry of a fascist Russian white movement member who was a submariner and "Tamango" by Merimee and Vysotsky's songs and Poe's short horror stories and Melville's "Benito Sereno" racist story, in general a pretty equal mix of radical views of life, honestly, both the good and the bad ones.
So - it's mostly rather old stuff, as you might guess, and the image of all those overseas colonized lands is somehow similar and blended. Now you wouldn't think that there's much similarity between USA and Brazil and Argentina, LOL.
OK, I just got carried away. Perhaps that moment when your whole country started feeling "settled" is when the bad things started accumulating (other than lynchings of blacks and lobotomies of autists, I mean). And started feeling less of a union and more of one country.
EDIT: Forgot South Africa.
And how many from the republicans?
I hate voters! They are so gullible to be voting for the same bosses over and over again!!! :-(
Blaming dems for Republican actions is pure ignorance.