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Why do you trust Orion over Brave?
I don’t trust anything built on Chromium. I know it’s technically open source but I don’t trust anything owned by Google. (Tho this doesn’t matter as much for the iOS browser since Apple forces everything to use WebKit)
Brave doesn’t use Google telemetry, it is not telemetry free and it is sending data back to Brave.
But mainly, the guy who founded Brave Software and their investors are all fucksticks and I will do everything in my power to avoid giving them a dime.
Brendan Eich is against LGBT+ rights and his company Brave Software is supported by Peter Thiel.
Brave has their own ad software and they do their own shady crypto non-sense.
I pay for Kagi search so the Orion browser was a natural step for me. Orion browser has zero ads, zero telemetry and no AI. Plus I can use Firefox and Chrome extensions.
I’m not saying Orion/Kagi is perfect by any means. Sometimes the extensions are wonky and Orion doesn’t work with local network devices. But they don’t own an ad company on the side like Firefox and Brave.
Kagi was funded by VCs so it’s a matter of time until they start squeezing, but right now, I trust them more than I would trust Brave.