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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 45 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I have long thought that a UBI would generate a new renaissance.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

In the early 90's, myself and every single computing geek I knew thought the Internet would usher in a Renaissance of intellect.

It was humbling to be so sure and so wrong. While I hope the same as you do, I am not so sure of anything anymore.

[–] apostrofail@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

True. My way would be correct if it was pronounced nine zeroes (which it isn't).

[–] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

You weren't wrong across the board though. I know it's hard to focus on the positives these days, and we are constantly bombarded with depressing and inane content, but we can't lose sight of them.

It's hard to overstate how much the internet has made scientific research and collaboration easier for instance. The sheer amount of research being done has exploded, and it's far from being all slop. Publishers try their best to paywall the articles but they're still available nonetheless.

And what about all the art that is shared online by people who would never, in a million years, have been able to show their creations to the world before the internet. Not to mention the people who don't share it but can make it because of freely available information.

I know it's not as idyllic as you probably foresaw it (yeah, understatement of the century, I know), but it did happen, even though unfortunately it also led to a gigantic pile of shit. Both can be true simultaneously.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Good point about science, eg mRNA Covid vaccine development. However because of social media emboldening cookers, the Western public is increasingly anti-science. Even the number of Flat-Earthers is on the increase.

Acrual law is online and yet delusional Sovereign Citizens make up their own law and have become deadly terrorists.

As for the arts I disagree even though I personally embraced the technology.

I was inspired by techno in the mid 90's using daisy chained old Roland gear. Each person could afford one and together they were complete. It was punk ethos.

I then formed perhaps the first laptop electronic band in the world to take ot to the next level. Three of uswho already had computers banded together because each 80486 computer was not powerful enough on its own. The next generation of computers saw us splinter to go solo because we could.

Now I jam and record weekly with custom software over the Internet — me in Australia and other guy in Switzerland. But this space age workaround is out of necessity because locals in Sydney are unavailable. I would prefer to be in the same room for the vibe and have made a callout in local forums.

Respondents supposedly liked my music enough but nothing ever came from it once I revealed that there are no upcoming gigs and I am not interested in chasing gigs either. Youngsters seek fame (as always) while the older ones seek paying gigs to afford their rent. They don't have time for creative collaboration for its own sake.

From a community standpoint, it was better pre-computer. Even night club DJ's performed a different role as collectors and curators. Spotify has killed that. It is the enshittification of music.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Also Anna's archive is what I always wanted. That and piracy sites mean that most of the movies, TV, and whatnot are easy to get noatter what

The problem is we don't.live in a democracy

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

RIP Aaron Swartz. RIP Reddit.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 7 points 19 hours ago

It would improve society in so many ways. The only people it wouldn't benefit are the ruling class, and by harming the ruling class to benefit society, you benefit society. There are literally no downsides to it.

[–] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I so want a UBI. Time to help my community, make open source contributions in ways I deem meaningful and beneficial to society rather than driven by corporate profit, make art, and have as much time as I want with my family? Sign me up.

But we wouldn't want to prove that people don't need the fear of homelessness and starvation to be productive now would we?

[–] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Don't wait for your country. How much do you want it? Are you willing to find all the other people who want it? Once enough people want it you can move into one place and pool parts of your income to create it.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 hours ago

That's wait I want

[–] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, some sort of commune is definitely not out of the question, on a personal level. That does not help the vast majority of people who stand to benefit from it (more so than me) though.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 18 hours ago

Grow it. If people benefit they will join.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

3 minutes of Brian Eno talking on this very topic and undermining the concept of the genius.

https://youtu.be/xDZ4L2JjlZY