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Almost like women have different, valid, fears than men
How does this apply to the whole "gender roles are obsolete/archaic" thing?
I'm not trying to be edgy, I'm just trying to understand how that idea meshes with "wife sends husband into potentially dangerous situation because the risk for him is lower"
Well if the person was a ftm trans man, who these days are basically impossible to differentiate from cis men, they probably would have been pretty safe. So gender isn't obsolete per se, it's just not immutable.
And some people might want it to be obsolete, but society writ large is just not on board with that.
Rapists will always prey on people who are more vulnerable than them. Things like prison rape show that a person's genitals aren't always a factor. Mtf trans people also get raped.
Nice deflection. I never claimed gender is immutable. You just brought cis/trans distinction into a discussion about man/woman.
So it's only obsolete if we're talking about cis men? Cause if you meant anything else by that, then why would you even bring it up? Is it obsolete or is it not obsolete?
Don't give me "per se," cause that just leaves you room to carve out exceptions for anyone you don't think is oppressed enough to deserve your sympathy or acknowledgement.
Rape is an evil, vile, despicable thing to do to another person. That's a bit of a red herring though, because my question was about how this topic reflects on gender roles. Cause it seems like the same people who want to say "gender roles are archaic and should be done away with" are in favor of sending a man into a situation where a woman might be in danger. But wouldn't that make it a gender role?
By the way, cis men get raped too. Using mtf as an example to show that a person's genitals aren't always a factor is akin to saying "Only women get raped." Especially when combined with your statement that "Ftm would be pretty safe." So what's your agenda, to claim the world is ultimately safe for men?
So are you saying men should do the dangerous stuff, fulfilling the gender role of "protector"? Because most feminists would be allergic to a statement like that. And yet here they are, saying "The world's too dangerous for women, so they need to send men to do the dangerous stuff."
My only point one way or the other is that it displays a glaring inconsistency that needs to be examined. There's no need to insert the cis/trans distinction into the mix; if gender roles are obsolete, then it doesn't matter; and if they're not then the only difference it makes is in how men or women perform their gender, and whether they're cis or trans wouldn't change that.
I didn't know we were having an argument, and I didn't know I was even disagreeing with you, but OK.
Are you doing alright? Maybe take a deep breath.
Sorry, it's just hard to approach these topics from my angle without bracing to be punched in the face...