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Secret Service are the chillest of all the services.
NGL, I know there's a ton of hate for everything government at this time, but I worked with them decades ago when I did union stagehand work setting up for Presidential debates.
They aren't particularly motivated by politics, since their two main tasks are protecting money (figuratively via fraud crimes and literally in the sense of maintaining awareness of currency supplies when its transferred around the country or the globe) and politicians and foreign diplomats.
Many of them get called up for duty protecting people they may personally loathe, and they do it nonetheless.
God knows I saw some of that in action with how the agents treated the college kids that were running the various campaign events.
To wit: We're setting up at one stop and the managing director is some 24 year old poli-sci major with ZERO understanding of safety and security and even less of stage construction, set design and dressing ("No.. move this here.." and then 20 minutes later.. "No.. move that back and put the other piece there..." and by this time we've spent nearly double the amount of time as normal to set the stage and press risers and are ready to kill ourselves in frustration..) and the agents are telling us how far to put up stanchions and what exists must be kept clear, and we're doing it and in comes the kid all hot and bothered saying "..No, no no.. this isn't right.. THEY - the candidate - wont' like it this way, they want a grand entrance.." and the agent stares them down and says, "I don't care what they want, this is what it is going to be.."
All the candidates campaign managers - Republicn or Democrat - acted this way. Miserable shits. They were getting their marching orders from the politicians themselves. It sucked.
So it was was delightful to see them get taken down a few notches by Secret Service. Also on another setup for Obama, one of our lead upriggers - a notorious drunk - got similarly frustrated in a similar situation and threateed to get a gun and start shooting.. Within earshot of a TV news crew. Half an hour later Secret Service shows up and the BA (business agent) for the Local pulls us all together to "get the story straight" to tell the agents, and I cut her short and said.. "Nope.. He's a drunk, we're pissed at the idiots running this setup and I'm not lying or distorting what he said.." And she kinda agreed and we all just vented at the agents about the campaign managers and that yeah.. uprigger is a massive dick and a raging drunk and miserable - we all are - but we want to ge this done so Obama can come in and speak.
They went to his house and talked to his wife and asked if there was a gun in the house and she replied she'd made him sell the pistol he'd bought a few years earlier. He was put permanently off the political jobs and sent home. (I knew his wife and I can only imagine the firworks when he got home AFTER he'd spent the remainder of the day drinking himself blind at the Elks Lodge he was a member at.)
Secret Service.. man, they could have been waay bigger dicks than they were (and they were totally ok), and seeing the shit they put up with from the politicians directly, was an eye opener.
They are different than what one expects, that's for sure. NGL, Secret Service are the last people I'd be worried about, they're never unprofessional. (which at time boggles the mind as they're often treated like shit by the politicians who can be fucking ungrateful..) They aren't ICE.
Personally I'd love to see a Trump trial or even better, Steven Miller.
The Secret Service of today is not the one you worked with decades ago. Trump corrupts everything he touches.
This is what I was going to say. It's one thing to hold your nose and do your job to protect prominent politicians, but Trump would never be satisfied with just professionalism. He demanded absolute loyalty over all else, which is why in my opinion the attempt in Butler was as close as it was - he clearly surrounded himself with people who were pro-Trump first and USSS agents second. Incompetent fools who didn't even bother to set up a perimeter or secure the site where he was speaking. Their only qualities are their willingness to swear fealty to Trump and nothing else.
I don't know if that is true.
The guy who is the director now is a longtime agent that was on Presidential duty for Obama - he joined when Bush was President. Long term knowledge and skill is an actual asset for this agency that any politican who wants to stay safe understands..
It's different than other agencies.
Absolute BS - They were directly involved in Trump's January 6th insurrection and deleted incriminating data to cover it up. They've been corrupted just like everything else Trump touches. https://www.yahoo.com/news/jan-6-pentagon-secret-service-texts-deleted-cover-up-accusations-170030306.html
That would have been under the direction of James Murray, who left under the cloud of suspicion regarding those deletions, and yet the Biden Administration found nothing actionable to prosecute for, after their investigation concluded. (in point of fact, apparently Murray stayed on at his job until the investigations were concluded, so he did NOT cut and run..)
It's not like there isn't a level of independence tied to the professionalism that - again - is something that the politicans and diplomats don't want to fuck with.
This gets back to the agents being willing to put down their lives for people they may loathe.
I've talked at length to Secret Service agents in my time working with them. The whole service is a different level of dedication.
And let's just leave it at that, as you're gonna want to act as if the quid pro quos they give - and get - are indicative of something that only one party that requires their protections, deals with.
I can guarantee you that even if we got the most socially progressive, honest, leftist government in the world, the basic policy of the Secret Service would remain unchanged.
They're really not interested in bloviating hens that rant on social media. My bet is that some Trump staffer saw the post and cried like a bitch to a Secret Service liason and they were ordered to go out and check for "terrorists"..
Manbaby Don-don and his peevishly thin skin wants everyone to love and kiss him and offer him hugs and praise after all..
Secret Service really don't give a shit because the threats they look out for today aren't the ones that are advertised.
Fact: The SS deleted all text messages related to January 6th. They would have no reason to do so unless they had something huge to hide, like knowingly supporting an insurrection.
Fiction: Your fabulist claims that you're knowledgeable about what the organization is today despite the fact your experience with them is decades old. Your experience is so far out of date that your claims are laughable.
BTW - "bloviating hens" is cute, but you should really look up the word "bloviating" before using it in your name-calling routine.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/homeland-security-secret-service-text-recovery_n_62e4cb1fe4b006483a9db3b6 - it was, in point of fact, the Trump appointed DHS inspector Joseph Cufari who looked into the issue then refused to recover the deleted messages.
FYI, bloviation is pretty much what a lot of tiktoks and instagram videos include..
So to recap - according to you the SS agents actually involved in the insurrection are blameless and get a pass simply because someone else helped covered it up. Got it.
Do you have proof they actually were involved in anything suspect, other than your assumptions because you want it to be so?
Any photos in the 10's of thousands taken that day that showed them inciting riots?
They didn't need to "assist" in anything.
The fucktard Trumpists brought this one home that day all by themselves, and is that what is pissing you off so much.. that a bunch of country bumfuck yahoos and white trash religious bigots did what no one on the left has had the balls to do?
Either way, Secret Service gets to watch over whatever asshat politicians take power.
Unfucking believable. The entire point is that the SS made damn sure all evidence was deleted and you're asking me if I have any evidence? What is wrong with you?
This is obviously a hill you will die on. You're welcome to do so without any help from me.
I’m not the one to assume guilt without corroboratng evidence. There aren’t photos of shit, but the asshat MAGA dipshits in action. What you fail to accept is that there were thousands of people looking to ID anyone tied to Trump’s administration who were in the crowds that day, and 4 years during the Biden Administration to charge and prosecute any federal employees involved. It would be the most dangerous failure of any agency - the one that literally protects politicians in both parties. Think about that for a second. NOTHING came down during the Biden Administration indicating they were involved. No matter how much you want it to be. There’s no hills here, just no willingness to buy into a narrative of guilt without evidence. Biden certainly could have ordered DHS inspector Joseph Cufari to finish the investigation or hand it off to anyone else. Instead they decided to drop it. Why?
One last time. The evidence that proves guilt was deleted and that is exactly what I've been saying from the start.
Your blind faith in the Secret Service is based on pure fantasy, not fact, and the rest of the world is not required to respect your own private religion or you.
Of course government agents doing inappropriate things would use actual government phones leaving an actual document trail.
Secret Service agents wouldn't be so stupid as you imply. They are trained for nothing but contingencies.
That's what you don't want to get.
I've worked with and talked to them, you have not, and all your wanting the entire country to burn as a sacrifice to your own religion of rage isn't worthy of respect either.
This goes both ways.
sure thing, jibbering cock
Now, now.. let's not be a male chauvinist pig and think everyone on the internet's got a big swinging cod between their legs.. in my case, you should have written
..sure thing, "nattering hen".
(FYI you can even call me a cunt if it makes you feel better.. I'm old enough to honestly not give a shit. Knock yourself out.)
LOL!
do you REALLY think all the 'bloviating hens' as YOU put it were all female?
that's an assumption on your part.
I stick with my thesis, jibbering cock.
LOL! Don't hang getting your doctorate on that...
if it's adequately excited it'd work for a little while
..Hmmm…