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Donald Trump now genuinely lives in a different reality, one in which neither grammar nor history nor the normal rules of human interaction now affect him. Also, he really is maniacally, unhealthily obsessive about the Nobel Prize. The Norwegian Nobel Committee, not the Norwegian government and certainly not the Danish government, determines the winner of that prize. Yet Trump now not only blames Norway for failing to give it to him, but is using it as a justification for an invasion of Greenland.

Think about where this is leading. One possibility, anticipated this morning by financial markets, is a damaging trade war. Another is an American military occupation of Greenland. Try to imagine it: The U.S. Marines arrive in Nuuk, the island’s capital. Perhaps they kill some Danes; perhaps some American soldiers die too. And then what? If the invaders were Russians, they would arrest all of the politicians, put gangsters in charge, shoot people on the street for speaking Danish, change school curricula, and carry out a fake referendum to rubber-stamp the conquest. Is that the American plan too? If not, then what is it? This would not be the occupation of Iraq, which was difficult enough. U.S. troops would need to force Greenlanders, citizens of a treaty ally, to become American against their will.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The US is awesomely amazing at invading other countries. This is a simple fact sustained by history

Having said that

It's also a simple fact, sustained by history, that America suckw beyond badly at occupying conquered territories. Iraq, anyone? Afghanistan anyone?

And those had relatively easy climates. Greenland is a fucking horror show with which the US has little experience

Any occupation of Greenland by the US WILL fail eventually, the question is just how many US soldiers will have to die before it's decided that maybe just maybe this wasn't a good idea.

The only way it would could possibly work is a complete genocide, kill or forcibly remove ALL citizens. This of course would be a humanitarian catastrophe with very few examples in history, but I wouldn't put it past the cheeto.

This all goes to ignore people living in the US. If you invade Venezuela, Mexico, Canada, Greenland.... Do you really think that none of its citizens that currently live in the US might get ideas? Then what? You're going to round those all up too?

Once the US invaded one of its allies, the current administration will be over, it's just a matter of time before it will bleed to death

To paraphrase a cool movie: There is no winning move, except not to play

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I see more of a Haiwai situation. Or do you not consider that occupied territory.

[–] HermitBee@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago

To paraphrase a cool movie: There is no winning move, except not to play

It depends what you count as winning. There are some who might consider "give yourself a country for your 80th birthday" the ultimate win, and not give much of a shit beyond that. As an example.

WarGames was a cool movie indeed.

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

It’s also a simple fact, sustained by history, that America sucks beyond badly at occupying conquered territories. Iraq, anyone? Afghanistan anyone?

Why do you assume it would be an occupation? I think you should consider how effectively the United States colonized its own territory while exterminating the indigenous population, and then consider that Greenlanders are, in fact, red Injuns.