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[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Of course there are better and worse colonizers.

[–] Gnugit@aussie.zone 19 points 1 month ago

I suppose you consider yourself "one of the good ones" right?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah you tell those native people what's good for them. You know better than them. Those silly native people who have dealt with colonizers for centuries and have all this experience with it they can't know more than you can. No you're the good kind of colonizer I'm sure.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

You’re at a hospital and you have 5/10 pain. You have two options, one gets you 3/10 pain and the other gets you 7/10 pain. Which is better for your pain situation? Is neither better because neither is 0/10?

[–] itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think the issue is they would argue that independence would be a 0/10. Why fight for 3/10 when you can fight for 0?

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago

That still proves their statement false which makes them sound dumb.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And you being such an intelligent doctor can tell the patients how much pain they are experiencing and don't even need their input right? That sounds ethical.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This isn’t about doctor or patients or colonies or oppression. It’s about the word “better” and how they objectively misused it and undermined what they were trying to express by doing so.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I totally get it. Those stupid silly natives aren't smart enough to know what words like objectively mean. So it's up to you to tell them how to feel and think. I understand what you're laying down. They're just not civilized enough, they're like children to you right? So obviously it's up to you to do what's best for them since they couldn't possibly know for themselves. Totally understand.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They can all be shit but one can still be more shit than the other. I don't want to lose one eye but I'd rather that than go fully blind.

Though the argument here is more that "we are the better colonizer, trust us bro" should never be taken as a reason to want a new colonizer to take over.