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it's not solipsism. it animal cognitive behavioral study.
> Puts a bullet in you
> bystanders freaking out
> not to worry, I have the perfect justification prepared > "Oh nonono it's ok, they just don't have any sort of consciousness. it's not solipsism. it commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com behavioural study." > nailedit.jpg
i never suggested they don't have consciousness, though i rather doubt that some animals, like muscles, do. i said they don't understand personal mortality. if you can find me an animal cognitive behaviorist who disagrees, i'd love to read their work.
Fine, we'll put aside the accusation of solipsism for a moment and come back to this:
You'ven't made any meaningful rebuttal of anything I've said here. This is why it's easy to assume you're arguing in bad faith: I'll clearly state my position and explain my reasoning, and then you'll just come along and hit me with the "nuh-uh," and refuse to elaborate. At my insistence that you justify your own position, you've so far given me "but different things are different," and "but it's normal tho."
In the case of the former, I have explained why in the context of this discussion the different things are actually quite similar in the way that actually matters here. And given that you appear to hold sincerely leftist beliefs on every topic except animal liberation, I really hope I don't have to explain to you how "but it's normal tho," has been used to defend countless atrocities, historical and present, and as such I shan't accept it as a justification.
you still haven't provided any cognitive behavioral science to support the claim that nonhuman understand that they themselves might die, which is an essential step in establishing that they want to live out that they didn't want to die
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