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Google admits the open web is in ‘rapid decline’ (www.theverge.com)
submitted 2 days ago by artifex@piefed.social to c/technology@lemmy.world
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For months, Google has maintained that the web is “thriving,” AI isn’t tanking traffic, and its search engine is sending people to a wider variety of websites than ever. But in a court filing from last week, Google admitted that “the open web is already in rapid decline” (with regard to advertising, kinda-sorta)

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[–] artifex@piefed.social 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well at least there’s the fediverse, onion routing, nostr ID management, simplex and others. It’s not quite a Plan B, and definitely takes some effort, but is much much better than nothing.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I tried TOR earlier this year, and the 3 minute pageloads that timeout 3/4 of the time, were very off putting.
I hope we can do better

[–] ChimpChamp22@reddthat.com 1 points 13 hours ago

It sounds like there was something wrong with your setup. I use Tor almost exclusively for general browsing and while its definitely slower than VPN and unprotected browsing, its never taken more than 10 seconds to load a page, and that's on the long side. Usually no more than a few seconds longer in any other scenario. Definitely never been 3 minutes.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

TOR is rough, i2p is rough, ipfs is nearly dead

Gemini protocol is lit and fast but dead. it's like a fancier version of gopher.

If we could all move over to gemini, i'd be stoked, no javascript, limited cgi bin opporunities

[–] artifex@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like the Internet in the 90s.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah, I had a 14400 bauds modem and even then it was never this slow
I went to the dread forum and maybe got 4 page loads in 15 minutes
simply unusable unless you really really need it and already know exactly what you need, where it is, and how to click as few links as possible to get there. And even then, reading single threads is an hours long task.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Modem starts dialing up. Everything is going fine, attempting 28.8k negotiation... failed. Okay, not Im listening to 19.2k negotiation... failed again? Ugh, ok, 14.4k... no? Jesus fuck. Please let me at least have 9600...

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

....ah phew, at least its 9600 so I can finally ...CARRIER LOST. Ah fuck it.