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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Oh I'm sure that'll go perfectly well in China!

Maybe ask some students on how well that went when they protested on some big square there...

[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They were manipulated by CIA plants that were murdering Chinese army soldiers. So. There’s that part of the story that caused the states response.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Username checks out.

Tankies will always find any excuse to say China can do no wrong, and if they do it's the west's fault...

"We had to massacre those protesters, you see. The US was targeting our military assets! It's their fault." Golly.

[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I mean. If labor unions killed people. Like they did during some of the coal mine riots. It gives the police and at times military freedoms to retaliate.

I grew up where the sheriff of my county killed 25 people in a single day before miner unions were allowed to exist.

Look up the Williamsport Mine Field Riots. They treated these people like animals. Just like the CCP treats their lower workers.

I’m not a tankie. I just know what happened on the ground that led up to the violence. I was in a masters program for counter terror.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe I misunderstood your original comment. It seemed like you were saying that it was okay for the CCP to massacre protestors because the protestors were manipulated by CIA plants.

If that's not what you were saying, then I was mistaken. If it was, then I don't know how anything you just said is supposed to change my opinion...

[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

I was just saying what they used as evidence for ending the student uprising. I’m not saying it was acceptable. I’m just pointing out the acts that they used to back up their actions. All of those students weren’t even aware of this. They didn’t know what they got pulled into. It was tragic.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tbf they did protest against the so-called "zero covid" policy and the government sort of gave in.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Was that before or after they welded a bunch of apartment complex doors closed?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

You know the answer already, but for those that don't: after.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m aware. I still think they’re the country most in need of labor unions.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh, you were serious! Well, I think what they need is Democracy first, then unions. Communism theoretically eliminates the need for unions, but the reality is that it's just a dictatorship. Unions in China would likely either be co-opted by the Communist party through subterfuge, or through "reeducating" the misguided leadership and defining the unions - thus landing them right where they are, with a new bureaucracy.

Unions represent the spirit of the checks and balances envisioned in the U.S. Constitution. It is only by being of near equal power to the company that employees can negotiate for fair compensation and treatment. Without that, they're just resources. It's an effort to use human nature to gain good outcomes.