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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What do you mean "enter"? The entire country is built upon genocide and slavery.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

You do recognize that things are different than they were a few years ago, right?

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Yes, they are objectively worse now.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

When? There was genocide under biden, under obama, under clinton, under reagan, under kennedy not to mention the rehabilitation of top nazis generals and scientists into nato and nasa

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There was genocide under biden, under obama, under clinton, under reagan, under kennedy

(Citation needed)

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

The palestinian genocide for instance has been ongoing since 1948 (and before, but 1948 is of course where it kicked into overdrice) and all the US presidents are complicit in not just aiding it via material and political means, but they could have stopped it because "iSSrael" functionally ceases to exist the moment yankeeland decides to pull the plug.

The genocide of the indigenous americans is ongoing since before the inception of the liberal regime as it's own entity. It continues to this day by excluding natives from healthcare, confining them to reserves while simultaneously restricting their access to public infrastructure. Indigenous people needing yankee education in order to gain employment and various other restrictions that get justified in a liberal framework, but practically further the erosion of indigenous culture.

There are various genocides across the world carried out by the yankee stormtroopers more directly in places like Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Libya and some more indirectly by aiding terrorist groups and regimes like saudi arabia, al-qaeda, various african terrorist orgs meant to destabilise the region and break it open for western exploitation.

readsettlers.org

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Summary : there are genocides being done somewhere else by someone else, must be the fault of the President of the USA.

Americans did genocide the native people of this continent. Must be Obama's fault in 2008.

[–] nekbardrun@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Summary : there are genocides being done somewhere else by someone else, must be the fault of the President of the USA and somehow USA still sells arms to someone in somewhere else because business is business.

We only sell the guns (even to terrorist organizations), tanks and military jets, so... we are not responsible for the guns being used for bad things...

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

We sell guns to a lot of people. Should we be the world police and say what they can do with the stuff they bought from us? How do you feel about the US limiting the range and targets of the HIMARS systems we sent to Ukraine early in the war?

For the record, I absolutely agree that any aid provided by the USA to Israel should be conditional, and we should severely limit the types of weapons and systems sent there.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

What did Obama do to stop it? You do understand the indigenous genocide is ongoing right? What did Obama do to stop the genocide of the palestinians? You understand that anything pissrael does can be blamed on the yanks because they're the ones bankrolling and arming this so-called "country"?

How does this keep happening: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/20/kuhner-how-obama-arms-al-qaeda/

And yes any genocide on this globe that has been carried out for almost the last 100 years has been done with yanKKKee weapons. Where do these terrorists keep getting the funding, the arms?? Why is it that the countries these terrorists keep terrorising end up as US vassals?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, an opinion piece written by a notably not histrionic or atangonist little right wing radio commentator who became a US citizen in (checks notes) 2016, Jeff Kuhner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Kuhner

You should definitely read the articles and consider the source before you post then as fact.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Alright i didn't have material about a conflict over a decade ago ready at hand, but broken clock and all that. The dude was right about what Obama's action will lead to as we can see with the benefit of hindsight. Obamas failure to help Assad, but arm other extremists (al-Nusra) because they were fighting both ISIL and Assad and help them by drone bombing weddings, even though they had no real path for defeating both lead to ISIL becoming stronger and better armed. Thank god Assad prevailed I would say, but look at the dude currently head of state of syria. Which gives us the sad sad opportunity to see both, not just what happened due to Obamas I'm-playing-both-sides failing, but also what would have happened if he succeeded. (Edit: I replaced the wikipedia link with a link to an article by the grayzone)

Syria is to Obama, what Libya is to the Clintons, what Ukraine is to the Bidens.

And that still leaves my point about Obama failing to stop the genocide of palestinians and indigenous americans, even though he could have, completely unaddressed. But of course you would not focus on that, or the facts of Obamas foreign policy, but attack the source. Because you either know I'm right, or don't know anything about Obamas foreign policy.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Thank god Assad prevailed I would say

Just lead with this next time and let people really know who you are.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

As the alternative to al-Nusrah or ISIL? Yeah thank god. Just say you don't know what you're talking about next time and save us both the trouble.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Good job using false choice to condition your support of Assad, the guy that was using to chemical weapons on his own people.

And to think you bitch about a US President allowing weapons to be sold to someone doing a genocide, while you openly support someone who was actually commiting genocide. 11/10 mental gymnastics there.

So, should the US be the world police or not?

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

false choice

alright, lets ask the geopolitics understander which faction had a realistic view of defeating ISIL and governing Syria? My whole point is no, the US shouldn't. They shouldn't have been arming al-Nusrah lol

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So what should the US do about al-Nursrah? Since we're not the world police?

Also, pretty sure that openly supporting a genocidal dictator is against the rules of this community.

Proselytization, support, or defense of authoritarianism is not welcome. This includes but is not limited to: imperialism, nationalism, genocide denial, ethnic or racial supremacy, fascism, Nazism, Marxism-Leninism, Maoism, etc.

I would encourage you to delete, or clarify your support of Assad.

Hypothetically, I should report you, per the rules as well...

Block or ignore posts, comments, and users that irritate you in some way rather than engaging. Report if they are actually breaking community rules.

...but I think in earnest that you've gone too far down a rabbit hole and are saying things you don't genuinely believe or fully understand the implications of.

I'm going to go ahead and follow other part of that rule and ignore you now. Frankly, it's probably what is best for you at this point.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

And what should the yankee empire have done about al-nusrah? If you weren't the world police? How about nothing?? Don't arm al-qaeda offshoots? Like what??

Between al-nusrah, ISIL and assad, Assad is preferable, I don't think there is anything controversial about that statement. You have absolutely no idea what's going on however and are in no position to say what's a rabbit hole and what isn't. You just need to shield yourself from the fact that your hero Obama is a war criminal like the rest of them.

Because even if his support for Al-nusrah were justified, and please remember we are talking about an al-qaeda offshoot here, there still is the genocide of the palestinians and indigenous americans which you keep just not mentioning because you know they're inexcusable.