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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 89 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Fusion kitchens are the best and maybe the only good thing to come out of colonialism. Indonesian-Dutch food slaps. Vietnamiese-French cuisine kicks my ass. Must I bring up Italian coffee or Swiss chocolate? Turkish-German Döner is so popular it is sold basically everywhere now.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Fusion kitchens are the best and maybe the only good thing to come out of colonialism

Well, there's also a pretty good music that jazz doesn't happen the way it did without putting European instruments in the hands of formerly enslaved Africans. Would be a lot cooler world if we could figure out how to evolve our art and culture without crimes against humanity, tho.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, colonialism did bring tomatoes and potatoes to Europe.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

said cultural exchange happens without colonialism. look at sweet potatoes.

that's like saying well, without rape, there wouldn't be rape babies, and implying that we should thank rapist for their lives.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Things like cane sugar could never grow anywhere near a Northern climate. If you want that to influence an entire continent's food you can only do that through an incredibly unfair deal (like cash crop colonialism).

You certainly don't get a ton of culinary creativity when you're paying a fair (read: expensive) price for goods grown halfway around the world. They're too precious to be anything but a novelty for the rich.

you still can get trade. and why do we need everywhere in the world to have the same foods?

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I want to protest the Döner one. Other countries sell something they call Döner, but the similarity is superficial at best to a real one. It's a fun little thing I do on vacation in other European countries: try to find a "Döner" and see what travesty they give me

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I miss German döner so much. It’s just not right elsewhere, and I can’t understand why.

[–] decipher_jeanne@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

... One time I asked for a doner in Stuttgart. And they ask me "Spicy or no Spicy?" I am curious so I say Spicy. It's fucking curry. They added some sort of Indian curry to a kebab.

So yeah, I don't know if it's a normal thing in Germany, but I am judging you as an entire nation over this. It wasn't even bad, it was pretty good actually. Just... Why?

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s not normal, and they should be ashamed. The normal hot sauce is more like a chili crisp.

[–] Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Or Sambal Ölek, which works great with haloumi and falafel too.

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most often the changes I saw till now is the missing (red) cabbage and the bread is different.

But yeah, I'm with you: I haven't yet found one that is better or even equal to the real one

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I also don’t find many places near me that have the mystery meat on the spindle. That’s a prerequisite. I also don’t know what’s in the “scharf” sauce but it seems hard to find too.

Edit

I have to assume that in Germany, there is one or a couple food distributors who sell all the ingredients, since they’re pretty consistent through all the independent shops. Why don’t they just export everywhere?!

Yeah I feel you. The Belgian dürüm variety is actually quite good, if very different. Fries in there and a crazy sauce selection absolutely slaps.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I had tex-mex / Indian fusion once and it was surprisingly good.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Turkish-German Döner is so popular it is sold basically everywhere now.

I fucking wish. I lived in France 20+ years ago and loved the stuff. Came back to the US and have been waiting to see a good Döner kebab for over 2 decades now.

[–] PrincessTardigrade@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

In the states, is döner kebab basically the same as gyro or shawarma?

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

Shawarma is the closest I've found, but it's not quite the same. Gyros usually are made with pitas, which isn't how the kebabs I used to eat were made.

[–] arudesalad@piefed.ca 4 points 1 day ago

And every brit is legally required to bring up chicken tikka masala when talking about fusion food.

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Babi pangang up in this motherfucker

You telling me a Foe Yong'd this Hai?