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Thank you for finding this quote. It's certainly not a great look. He does specifically condemn the action of killing of civilians. Which is lingo similar to how Europe recently condemned Israeli bombings on Qatar, while not condemning Israel itself but it's not a great look.
He has another one where he says he supports Israel's right to exist, but not as a Jewish state, but as a state with equal rights for everyone. Which in practice means that he doesn't believe Israel has the right to exist, but it's a great way to answer the question in a way that satisfies libs.
That said, I don't think it's possible to do anything about the October 7 libs without doing any of this kind of dodgy answering.
It's a simple matter of fact that many if not most of us, at least in NA have started with the default lib programming. There clearly is a path through deprogramming that creates likeminded people who then support people like Zohran. Playing the word gymnastics like Mamdani does enables libs to take on some of these ideas instead of rejecting all of them because of one thought-terminating slogan. That puts them on the deprogramming path. I don't think this contradicts any long-term leftist goals.
I think a lot of people have already given up on reform like Zoran have and believe that revolution is the only path to change which is probably true.
The problem is that you are only allowed to truly turn on someone when they start to compromise on their values. Usually with reformist they do that way before they start to win any elections. Zoran has made minor speech compromises but in his values he hasn't really
I feel like a lot of leftists are preemptively shooting their load early before Zoran has committed any major mistakes. Do I believe Zoran will eventually fail because he starts compromising too much like Bernie Sanders Yes probably. But criticizing him this hard now is a tad unfair.
Compared to all other leaders, including China and Russia, Zohran's position is actually far more uncompromising right now.