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    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

    Kde is so ugly and buggy, requiring tons of setup n knowhow to fix.

    Surely you confuse Plasma and Gnome. To get a sane setup on Gnome, you need to install Refine to enable the minimize button and then install Gnome Extension Manager and enable Dash to Panel or Dash to Dock.

    That's an insane amount of setup work for someone who doesn't know about those things.

    [–] Meron35@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

    People always rave about dash to panel/dock and I just... don't get it?

    Genuinely though, what is the purpose of the taskbar except to potentially you with notifications and take up valuable screen estate?

    If I need to switch apps, I'm either opening the overview/mission control, switching workspaces, or the app is already on the screen for multitasking purposes.

    Even on macOS I set the dock to autohide, and near exclusively just use swipe gestures, keyboard shortcuts, or spotlight.

    But alas, maybe it's just one of those things that just not for me.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    ...if you want

    For the max/min buttons you can just turn them on in gnome tweaks

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    For the max/min buttons you can just turn them on in gnome tweaks

    Ah yes, using a different non-standard tool makes so much of a difference.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

    It isn't "non standard." It is literally a part of gnome.

    Haters gonna hate I guess

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    It isn’t β€œnon standard.” It is literally s part of gnome.

    It's a stand-alone tool by the Gnome developers, it's not an integral part of Gnome.

    The default UX of Gnome still make it hard for people migrating from Win10. No amount of nitpicking about irrelevant details change that fact.

    Haters gonna hate I guess

    I didn't expect any other response by a Gnome fan. Keep ignoring comments like https://lemmy.world/comment/22252682 where I explained that I picked Gnome for an elderly man. I'm really such a hater that I pick Gnome for a certain use case.

    [–] wilmo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

    Going to Refine instead of the age old Gnome Tweaks is an interesting way to tell how long someone has been familiar with Gnome.

    That being said if you use Gnome how they want you to, you don't need those extensions.

    That way isn't for everyone as it's very different from what many used to but when you do get used to it those extensions will feel unnecessary

    [–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    I'm pretty sure you can live without the minimize button. I've used Gnome for 3 years and I've never felt the need to minimize a window. Even now after I switched to KDE Plasma a few days ago, I still don't minimize windows.

    [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

    I'm pretty sure you can live without the minimize button.

    I know it's not a big deal, but this approach is absolutely insane to me.

    "Sure there's a normal feature that a large portion of PC users use semi-regularly - but the GNOME devs don't like it, so why don't you just learn to live without it!"

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

    I’m pretty sure you can live without the minimize button.

    I'm volunteering in a repair cafΓ© where older people bring their Windows 10 computers and seek help migrating to Linux because their PC told them that Win11 isn't compatible.

    I make recommendations based on each person, trying to realize what they wish for first if they have an idea what they want. A few months ago there was an >70y/o man. Let's be realistic here, at this age it might well be the last PC he ever owns. So I set him up with Alma Linux (extra long support cycle) and made its Gnome desktop as Windows-like as possible. He's not getting pressured into unfamiliar UX metaphors and no way I'm pushing software from EPEL or anything that onto him. I enabled Flathub and temporarily installed aforementioned tools to make the necessary tweaks, then uninstalled these tools again, and installed a few of Gnome's games, Celluloid, and Chrome off Flathub.

    For the rest of the day he ate cookies and drank coffee and seemed pretty happy with that setup. We invited him to come back, should he have any further questions. Haven't seen him again.