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[–] vogi@piefed.social 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

How would you know what to search for?

Because of the needs I have, when I am hungry ill search for recipes or restaurants. When my apartment needs cleaning ill search for cleaning supplies, when I am bored ill look up what movies are playing.

I actually can not come up with a single situation where advertisement would be needed or helpful in anyway. I also do not have a problem with smaller advertisement, but in my dreams they are all banned regardless. Won't be missing those.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Okay, to break down the point: search for them where?

[–] vogi@piefed.social 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I guess on the internet or in the store.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world -3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

So how do people get on the internet or in the store? Heck, how do you know that the store exists in the first place (and if the store doesn't have what you need, what do you do?)

I'm just after a middle ground - the current insanity of advertising is obviously too much, but the idea of doing away with it entirely isn't feasible either. Burning all the advertising execs at the stake might be a good place to start in terms of reforming things...

[–] Delilah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Do you not have friends? Word of mouth recommendations exist.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Relevant XKCD:

The value of word of mouth advertising is the reason we have to deal with the hell that is astroturfing ad campaigns.

[–] Delilah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Not all word of mouth is advertising. While word mouth advertising is powerful, that argument is still just a straw man.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

This seems like it's not going to be a productive conversation if you're going to accuse me of using a strawman argument.

All word of mouth advertising is advertising. You're advertising that you like something to your friends. That it's viewed as "not advertising" by so many is the reason it's so valuable, and why so much effort is being expended to manufacture and subvert it, since it's one of the last forms left people aren't super conscious of. "Telling other people about the thing" is the oldest and most basic form of advertising, but it's still advertising, and people have worked to exploit it since the earliest records we have. Hell, even Ea Nasir advertised via word-of-mouth.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

This seems like it’s not going to be a productive conversation if you’re going to accuse me of using a strawman argument.

It seems like its not going to go anywhere because you think of all human communication as an act of manipulation.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Not all advertising is manipulation. The convo is going nowhere because you are No True Scotsmanning the definition of "advertisement".

If you're dropping a name of a product or service and describe anything about it to appeal to others, you are definitionally advertising.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

... Run that one by me again? What??

[–] vogi@piefed.social 3 points 7 hours ago

Normally I look stores up using OSM and I believe I found my ISP through an comparison portal. Sure there could be advertisement involved and I definitely bought many things because of it. I just don't think we would need that in any way and that the quality of life would even go up if we banned all advertisement.

Its definitely not feasible, at least not in our life times. In my city there was a citizen initiative to ban a lot of public advertisements which did not went through as there were not enough people signing up. So apparently we are not ready for that yet. Burning all the advertising execs does sound like a sensible thing to do though :) Lets settle on that.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I see what you're saying, but the obvious distinction here is that if someone is actively searching e.g. Google for a product, they don't mind being shown products (and by extension being advertised to) - they're actively seeking it out. What everyone has a problem with is being shown advertisements for products when they aren't seeking them out and in fact actively want to avoid them.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Thank you! The unending intrusiveness of modern advertising really has killed and buried the useful parts of advertising by becoming the norm, I wholeheartedly agree.