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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 50 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It uses a completely different paradigm of process chaining and management than POSIX and the underlying Unix architecture.

That’s not to say it’s bad, just a different design. It’s actually very similar to what Apple did with OS X.

On the plus side, it’s much easier to understand from a security model perspective, but it breaks some of the underlying assumptions about how scheduling and running processes works on Linux.

So: more elegant in itself, but an ugly wart on the overall systems architecture design.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 15 minutes ago)

On the plus side, it’s much easier to understand from a security model perspective

Lol, no. Way more code in Systemd. Also more CVE per year than in some bad (now dead) init/svc' lifetime.

[–] hoppolito@mander.xyz 21 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It uses a completely different paradigm of process chaining and management than POSIX and the underlying Unix architecture.

I think that's exactly it for most people. The socket, mount, timer unit files; the path/socket activations; the After=, Wants=, Requires= dependency graph, and the overall architecture as a more unified 'event' manager are what feels really different than most everything else in the Linux world.

That coupled with the ini-style VerboseConfigurationNamesForThatOneThing and the binary journals made me choose a non-systemd distro for personal use - where I can tinker around and it all feels nice and unix-y. On the other hand I am really thankful to have systemd in the server space and for professional work.

[–] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 5 points 14 hours ago

I'm not great at any init things, but systemd has made my home server stuff relatively seamless. I have two NASs that I mount, and my server starts up WAY faster than both of them, and I (stupidly) have one mount within the other. So I set requirements that nasB doesn't mount until nasA has, then docker doesn't start until after nasB is mounted. Works way better than going in after 5 minutes and remounting and restarting.

Of course, I did just double my previous storage on A, so I could migrate all of Bs stuff back. But that would require a small amount of effort.

[–] passepartout@feddit.org 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I've started doing podman quadlets recently, and the ini config style is ugly as hell compared to yaml (even lol) in docker compose. The benefits outweigh that though imho.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago

I agree that quadlets are pretty ugly but I'm not sure that's the ini style's fault. In general I find yaml incredibly frustrating to understand, but toml/ini style is pretty fluent to me. Maybe just a preference, IDK.