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[–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 255 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Enforcing that ban is going to be difficult.

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 161 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

They’re gonna use AI to detect the use of AI.

[–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 95 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Not if I use AI to hide my use of AI first!

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 39 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

They are going to implement an AI detector detector detector.

[–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s detectors all the way down.

But of course, as a tortoise, you would know that.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Did I seduce you a lot with my hard, polished shell? You can speak freely, nobody will ever know!

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it was your intense, Gowron-like stare that truly drilled into my heart.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 11 points 3 weeks ago

Glory to seduction! Glory to the empire!

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[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 12 points 3 weeks ago

Fun fact, this loop is kinda how one of the generative ML algorithms works. This algorithm is called Generative Adversarial Networks or GAN.

You have a so-called Generator neural network G that generates something (usually images) from random noise and a Discriminator neural network D that can take images (or whatever you're generating) as input and outputs whether this is real or fake (not actually in a binary way, but as a continuous value). D is trained on images from G, which should be classified as fake, and real images from a dataset that should be classified as real. G is trained to generate images from random noise vectors that fool D into thinking they're real. D is, like most neural networks, essentially just a mathematical function so you can just compute how to adjust the generated image to make it appear more real using derivatives.

In the perfect case these 2 networks battle until they reach peak performance. In practice you usually need to do some extra shit to prevent the whole situation from crashing and burning. What often happens, for instance, is that D becomes so good that it doesn't provide any useful feedback anymore. It sees the generated images as 100% fake, meaning there's no longer an obvious way to alter the generated image to make it seem more real.

Sorry for the infodump :3

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well the AI-based AI detector isn't actively making creative people's work disappear into a sea of gen-AI "art" at least.

There's good and bad use cases for AI, I consider this a better use case than generating art. Now the question is whether or not it's feasible to detect AI this way.

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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just the threat of being able to summarily remove AI content and hand out account discipline will cut down drastically on AI and practically eliminate the really low effort 'slop', it's not perfect but it's damn useful.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's also going to make it really easy to take down the content you don't like, just accuse it of being AI and watch the witch hunting roll in. I've seen plenty of examples of traditional artists getting accused of using AI in other forums, I don't imagine this will be any different.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 140 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

So what's the angle? The Internet is getting flooded by AI slop. AI needs fresh REAL content to train with. That's the angle. You are there to provide frsh amd original content to feed the AI.

Thats a very good point and probably exactly the idea. Dorsey has always just been an actor that says one thing and thinks another.

[–] BonkTheAnnoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago

Omfg this is so awful it's likely either accidental truth or a damn good prediction

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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 94 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It would be great if ALL social media platforms banned that garbage.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 38 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Or just had a filter to hide it. I don't feel like banning something from everyone just because I personally don't like it.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would and I’d have no problem with it at all. If people want AI slop, they can go find it where it is allowed.

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[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 79 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A Fediverse platform for short form video, made by the guy who makes Pixelfed

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 14 points 3 weeks ago

Not really just short form, it's more of a take on video feeds rather than just the limited length quickcontent Vine was famous about.

Obviously the focus is still on short(ish) content format, but I see more and more people transition to longer videos to deliver content. On YT/Facebook most videos I see nowadays are 10min or above.

[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)
[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

More tiktok than vine, really

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[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 21 points 3 weeks ago

TikTok but without users.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago

Why would anyone touch any garbage this guy produces?!

[–] Concave1142@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 34 points 3 weeks ago

don't care dorsey is the problem

[–] ozoned@piefed.social 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Another walled garden that will fracture the system even more and give even more credit to the open social web.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It is on nostr, I don't like the protocol very much but it is decentralised

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Is it decentralized like the fediverse or 'decentralized' in theory like bluesky?

[–] priapus@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Bluesky is decentralized, its just decentralized in a different way than Fediverse apps. A lot of fediverse people assume all decentralization would look like ActivityPub, so they just say its fake decentralization rather than learning how it works. (I know because I used to do the same, then I realized how little I understood it from this great blog post, and have since learned a lot more about it.)

There is already alternative infrastructure available (i.e. Blacksky and a variety of other applications hosted using ATProto (you can see a few here: https://bsky.social/about).

You can use any of these apps while maintaining full control of your own data by running your own PDS, or using any community maintained PDS. If you already have an account on the Bluesky PDS, you can migrate it, retaining all of your data. If you dont feel like migrating yet, you can also just export your rotation key, which would allow you to maintain control of your account even in the event that the Bluesky PDS does become evil or something.

Speaking of ATProto, sprk.so is a similar upcoming app, although I think its going to be more similar to TikTok than Vine.

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[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

Except it's not a walled garden, it's built on nostr.

[–] BonkTheAnnoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 weeks ago

Jack Dorsey once again singing "but baby I've changed!"

hard pass from me.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

https://divine.video/ - For people who want to see for themselves.

Also the android app from the TechCrunch article, seems like it was nuked though: https://divine.b-cdn.net/app-release.apk

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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago

Honestly, I don't really trust any cryptobro, I see them on similar level as AI-bros

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Lemmy hates everything and everyone it seems.

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

Jack Dorsey more than deserves the hate and I'm happy to discuss it with you.

[–] Dayroom7485@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

We like our negativity here - it’s still okay to disagree and be positive though!

That being said, Dorsey was fine selling his last media company to the highest-bidding fascist. Chances are he‘ll do it again.

Personally, I won’t use any social media that isn’t billionaire-proof.

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Weird Al is gonna be devastated!

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Well, my kind of humor.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Loops: "Am I a joke to you?"

Everyone else: "Who said that?"

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