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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 238 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 101 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The trans people they never knew they met.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’ve been an androgynous (cis gay) man most of my life, and when I was young I was mistaken for a girl a lot. Hell I even had my own doubts for a while.

There’s lots of people out there that think that they can tell if someone is trans or not. Hell I have met LGBTQ+ people that think they can just tell. The truth is, they can’t.

You will have met trans people that you didn’t know are trans, and if you go around making assumptions, you’ll meet cis people you think are trans, but aren’t.

A couple of months ago I found out that this person I’ve been casually following on YouTube for almost a decade is a trans woman.

Like the absolutely easiest, most accurate way to tell if someone is trans is to just ask the person in question.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Like the absolutely easiest, most accurate way to tell if someone is trans is to just ask the person in question.

So, are you one of them Trans gingers or what?

Like that?

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 11 points 2 months ago

Yes. Throw respect out the window and enquire directly about the status of their genitals too.

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[–] nagaram@startrek.website 119 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Odd way to learn altman is gay.

Kinda shocked I've never seen a "worlds richest gay man!" Headline. That feels like low hanging fru-

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Does Thiel not have more money?

[–] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Thiel killed the outlet that outed him.

[–] nagaram@startrek.website 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Another one I didn't know is gay.

Props to msm for not making it a big deal

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago

Thiel was outed by Gawker and made it a mission to secretly fund the Hulk Hogan lawsuit which resulted in Gawker going bankrupt: https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdrange/2016/06/21/peter-thiels-war-on-gawker-a-timeline/

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[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 months ago

Gay is only bad if the poors do it, of course /s

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago

Honestly I don't think it's any of our business. Even rich assholes are allowed to have a private life. Although with some (Musk, Trump) that private life is so fucked up it's impossible to ignore, but generally I'm totally fine with not knowing who they fuck.

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[–] KaChilde@sh.itjust.works 103 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The ability to reduce diseases and disorders in newborns sounds wonderful, until you find out which techno-fascist is behind the movement.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The other issue I have is that this is an example of a recurring issue in which the tech obsessed ultra wealthy declare their plan to solve a problem for which a very straightforward policy solution already exists.

We don't need tech to extend lives or feed the hungry. We just need to remove the paywalls to existing resources.

[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, here's an easy way to prevent most birth defects:

Free nutritious food
Regulating toxic chemicals
Prenatal education and healthcare

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the headline misspelled eugenics.

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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

In before this turns into "I want my baby to have blue eyes and 150 IQ"

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's an interesting ethical debate.

I have a hereditary condition which passes only by the X chromosome, so should I, as a man, abort a daughter? Because now the risk is too high and I've elected to simply not have children. It would be great if I could fix the single swapped base pair that would otherwise cause disfigurement and life-long health problems.

[–] KatakiY@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yeah I'm always conflicted. Like eugenics is the end goal for these fascists but also... We should try to prevent hereditary defects rtct

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 months ago (4 children)

so all Lemmy takes from this article is that Sam Altman is gay.

[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 50 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Tim Cook, Sam Altman, Peter Thiel.

We have enough data points to suggest that being gay doesn't insulate you from being greedy and corrupt.

That's important, too.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gay people are just as shitty as everyone else. They're no better or no worse. They just have sex with people of the same gender.

Who you want to fuck REALLY doesn't matter, like, at all, imo, in the grand scheme of things.

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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We have a code of conduct training at work that includes and anti corruption segment (nothing weird, just stuff like "a vendor buying lunch at a sales meeting is fine, but no gifts or having lunch at extremely expensive places", and "some places give small symbolic gifts around holidays, usually a pastry. That's fine. Do not accept a $500 pastry")

A couple years ago they updated the module and the person engaging in non-obvious corrupt business practices became gay in passing. The overwhelming response by a lot of the company was "yay! We made it guys! They realized that we like bribes too! I feel so seen".

[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

If someone was going to accept a $500 pastry, I'd put my money on the gay guy.

(It's me.)

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They do realize that this is how most zombie apocalypse movies start. Genetic tapering to stop diseases.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's fiction for a reason

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I mean the zombie part, sure.

Do you really think in the hands of Silicon Valley techbros this ain’t gonna get ugly?

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[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This really reminds me of “Brave New World”, kind of scary actually.

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The same guy who admitted he couldn't raise his child without ChatGPT btw.

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[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Neoliberal utopia. The wealthy elite destroying the world and forcing eugenics on the masses fly a rainbow flag

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[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So we’re skipping the Bell Riots and straight into Eugenics War?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Give me Butlerian jihad or give me death!

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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 22 points 2 months ago (17 children)

I'm not sure I get the universal negativity to this. Like sure, Altman sucks as a person, and an individual having enough money to significantly bankroll research like this is a sign of an economic failure, but surely curing or preventing genetic disease is just about the most uncontroversial use human genetic modification could have?

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 53 points 2 months ago

He's a bad person and he's always lying.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It'll only be available for the super rich, will expand to other augmentations/engineering, and will result in further reinforcing social mobility boundaries.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The response to something beneficial being only available to the rich shouldn't be to avoid developing that thing, it should be to make it available to everyone. The failures of the US healthcare and economic systems don't suddenly make developing new medical techniques a bad thing. Human augmentation is another issue from curing genetic disease, though I'd personally argue that wouldn't be a bad cause either, with the same caveat about it availability. It at least has more potential to improve somebody's life somewhere down the line than just buying a yacht with his ill gotten gains or some other useless rich person toy would.

[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

If you can't share basic healthcare with everyone, you're not going to share genetic healthcare, either.

The government shouldn't subsidize the development of super-healthcare (or pass conveniently targeted policies that enable its development at the expense of citizens) when all the non-billionaires get nothing but promises of I'll-totally-share-it-you-guys from the same guy who says we're-almost-at-AGI-we-just-need-another-trillion-dollars-I-swear.

The solution to billionaires have "ill-gotten gains" isn't "well, let's make sure he spends it responsibly". It's give the damn money back.

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[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Generally speaking (by theory subscription), moral evaluations of an action consider the state of the agent.

"Is this a good technology?" And "Is Sam Altman doing good?" Are two radically different questions with radically different answers.

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[–] qweertz@programming.dev 31 points 2 months ago

"What's bad with eugenics for the rich?"

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[–] probable_possum@leminal.space 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Engineer some humans who can survive in zero gravity without peeing out their bone minerals. Humans who can survive hard radiation in space without having their cells crippled from destroyed DNA.

Maybe start with simple organisms. Like algae. :)

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’d just like to have to trim my nails less frequently

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’d just like to have to trim my nails less frequently

i used to think like you, then i started (ab)using my hands for activities that wear them out. Now i'm glad that they're growing sufficiently fast to replace/renew

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anytime any non scientist wants to genetically engineer babies you should get very worried

When crypto or ai bros want to do that get outright scared

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[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 15 points 2 months ago

ah, ok, so GATTACA is up next. got it.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago

If it works as good as AI, people will be chronic liars, have multiple fingers, and be annoying attention whores always asking if they can "help" you.

[–] verdi@feddit.org 8 points 2 months ago

This is the usual front to further develop "designer baby" tech (which we already have, it's just the use is considered unethical). Mask investment as "saving the children" and altruistic to later flip the tech to billionaire friends so they can make little aryans on a d5 roll for a an AC of 1... Much like the open that turned for profit...

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