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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago

Alleged members of Venezuelan gang.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Glad we sorted out that issue just in time for unauthorized strikes on boats in the caribbean.

[–] skvlp@feddit.nl 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Am I the only one thinking that resembles an act of war?

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 59 points 5 days ago

Resembles? It's a literal act of war. They blew up a ship in international waters.

Even if those people were drug traffickers, they were just executed without a trial. Drug trafficking is not a capital crime in the US.

[–] brunchyvirus@fedia.io 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's not an ocean liner but America got pretty pissed at Germany for doing it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Well no Lusitania was doing exactly as was accused and was therefore a valid military target. It's why you don't ship tons of ammunition alongside passengers and as far as I'm aware it's a war crime to do.

[–] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 43 points 5 days ago (2 children)

He's gonna keep doing it anyway. He ignores court orders he doesn't like and it hasn't negatively affected him so far.

[–] karashta@piefed.social 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's almost like the power of the courts rely on people being essentially good faith actors within the system. They have no enforcement mechanism.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is false, and I wish people would stop saying it. It's worse than that. They are still complicit because they won't use their enforcement mechanism.

The courts have the authority to deputize as many as they need to see a court order carried out. This has been rarely done, as the US Marshalls usually carry it out. However, the US Marshalls are under the Executive branch and the Executive has the final say with them.

The deputies of a court do not fall under the executive.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago

It's like if someone was breaking into all the houses on the street, setting them on fire, and stabbing the inhabitants while the police stand around going "stop, eh"

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

Okay, the courts deputize 300 people to go try and compel the executive to follow the law - then what? They accuse Trump with contempt of court, serve him papers, threaten to seize assets, or even arrest him? All of this has been tried before. How do you see this playing out?

At the heart of the comment you replied to is an implicit claim "a judicial that has nothing other than legal and procedural means is doomed to fail against Trump". And all you've pointed out is that there are various other legal and procedural means they have yet to try. This is the cursed slogan of liberals who've watched Trump piss on every legal proceeding over the past 10+ years.

Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Until the courts have guns, they're toothless. Trump has subsumed the American legal system.

This blind faith that our "rugged", "resilient", and "pragmatic" system will somehow automatically course correct and steer us out of this fascist devolution is pure liberalism. The genie is out of the bottle.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 5 days ago

He ignores them like a child pushing boundaries. He doesn't respect them, he doesn't fear consequences, but at the end of the day when the courts put their foot down he does back down

Abrego Garcia was brought back. Alligator Alcatraz is being dismantled. Many people are back at work after being illegally fired

The rule of law is gone... But all the law has ever been is what people are willing to enforce. Trump and Co don't care about the law, but they're not willing to get in a standoff

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Trump's reaction:

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Cannot legally use the alien enemies act to...

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago

Trump has committed so many crimes, being Donald Trump is illegal

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 5 days ago

So he can extralegally do it!

Checkmate, judges!