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Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, Infosys co-founder Narayana Murthy has once again called for longer working weeks has returned, this time with an emphasis on schedules like the 996-pattern used in parts of China.

Murthy's comments revive a debate which began in 2024, when he argued that Indian employees should work 70 hours a week.

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[–] echo@lemmings.world 237 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh fuck off, asshole... you need to be thrown in prison.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He needs to take a long walk, on a short pier.

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Into the warm embrace of a hungry octopus...

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Cthulu, we have our next offering for you...

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 177 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

There is a large body of research out there regarding 12h shift work in healthcare. I’m only linking 1 article, a quick search will yield more, easily.

A TLDR on it: 12h shifts decrease performance. Stacking them decreases safety and performance, cumulatively. Car accidents pick up significantly on day 4.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4629843/

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 115 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It’s utter madness that healthcare professionals are allowed to work (in many countries) longer than truck drivers. It’s even more ridiculous that many countries have a medical doctor internship program that is designed by an absolute cocaine fiend assigning 30 hour days - and see nothing wrong with it.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

Capitalism protects the capital (goods, and equipment, on a truck), and values human lives at approx $3 million (based on financial cost for the company when a life is lost).

The value of the truck and the contents of the trailer are frequently greater than the value of the driver for a given trip, and therefore justify more caution and care than any given patient in a doctor's office.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 13 points 1 week ago

There’s less errors overall in having consistency in who healthcare reports off to between shifts. The 17% is balanced out by that (math wise). The errors in having 3 people reporting around an 8hr clock are significantly higher than with the 12hr clock.

But a 4th shift? Staying over to 16hrs? The 36hr week, I feel, is the extent to which you can safely take the 12h shift.

Additional madness is in that, in 26 states, the administrators of hospitals can hold shift workers over into double shifts. I don’t know about you, but I lose the capacity to read words around hour 18. Yet, this practice is engaged routinely in health care, without regard to sleep patterns. Maybe it is an 8h shift. Maybe that person spent day shift in school then went to work for an evening shift. Now is being held on their license to stay a night shift. And expected to drive home after more than 24hrs awake. Maybe their babysitter leaves at midnight. How good and safe is that patient care going to be?

US: Truck driver crashing causes property damage, patients dieing causes the bed to open up for another paying customer.

Rest of the world: Shortages due to cost of education along with not enough spots available for said education.

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[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Am I missing the article link?

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 136 points 1 week ago

“You worked really hard this year. 60 hour weeks. Impressive but you can do more. See that rolls Royce in the parking lot? If you work 80 hour weeks next year and everything works out, I’ll be able to buy a second one.”

[–] Somecall_metim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 107 points 1 week ago (4 children)

He doesn't work that hard, so why the fuck should we?

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 week ago

He probably thinks he works 80 hour weeks because he is including schmoozing with clients and company paid lunches and dinners as "work"

[–] throws_lemy@reddthat.com 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"This is nothing. When I was young, I worked 80 hours a week", Murthy probably

[–] count_dongulus@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

These are the little fuckwits that pretend waiting on a phone call back from someone is hard work. They have no concept of what real work is like; their "work" is just their ordinary greasy life made to benefit a shareholder in addition to themselves.

Oh, you want me to go play golf with this guy using the company card and then go for dinner and drinks? Do some soft sales, just having regular conversation? Sure, I'll take that "work". Man, it's tough. Nobody works 80 hour weeks like me.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

We pretend to work

They pretend to pay us

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[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 76 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ok I'll do 70 hour weeks as long as it promises I am also a billionaire by retirement. So that'll be a salary of 21 million a year please.

[–] Lon3star@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Exactly, I'll work my ass off for a year or two, but then I'm out

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You won’t be out when your rent is a million per month and groceries are 100k.

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 75 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Japan has a habit of doing this. The birth rate cratered, productivity is not that great and economic growth is famously low. Most workers do a form of performance theater, an actual "we pretend to work".

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[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 75 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So 6 days of 12-hour shifts? Sounds like a pretty novel way to tank your economy because no one’ll have the time to spend money or raise a family.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 week ago

“Why aren’t the proles making babies? I specifically requested it!”

Absolutely! The short sighted idiocy of this really points out the corporate thinking only about the next Q. This would get maybe a month before the economic crash

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[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 62 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Looks very nicely built I would be pleased to have one of these in my home.

[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Far too nice. No need for the blade to be so sharp and free of rust.

[–] beemikeoak@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 6 days ago

When the time is right, you squirt some acid on the blade. Any acid... Citric and acetic are pretty easy and they hurt like a beach on a small cut.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's an awful lot of billionaires. Don't want it to take too long or we'll be hacking at necks all day.

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[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago

He should work himself to death alone and leave us with a better world

[–] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Fuck that! We should be aiming for 21-28 hours being the normal length of the employed week for everyone everywhere, and it not being necessary to work any more than that unless you want to for yourself. We can't accelerate forever, we need to do less work hours and have good quality of life, otherwise what's even the point of technology?

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

Arguably we are already there. Depends how much you want to yourself. My house? No comrade, our house.

Share a house and you can do very little work. You could take it pretty far too. Think of those capsule hotels, could fit loads of capsules in my current bedroom even if you want to have your own capsule - sharing can further increase population. Less than 20 hours of work a month for static fees (mortgage, tax) per person. Food is about 4 hours of work a month. Heating wont change, though you will use more hot water for washing, probably 2-5 hours of work for energy and water.

All essentials covered, less than 30 hours of work a month required per person. Basing this on my expenses in the UK and minimum wage.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I do not understand his logic.

Paying someone 70 hours has the same cost as paying two persons 35 hours, right? (In my country technically no, because higher base taxation)

Someone working 70 hours is a mindless drone. This is how you get 13" iPads accidentally sold for 15€ "because the computer said so" (happened in a big box retailer in my country, no human involved in the process objected the price until WEEKS after the sale, when accounting noticed it, and they had to beg customers "pwease return our €1000 iPads and we give you a €25 gift card as a token of gratitude" and everyone just laughed about that)

Especially for developers, for the same price is better to get two that can do tasks with full attention rather than a single one that after 12 hours of job is just mindlessly clicking on "accept" on whatever a LLM is spitting out or half assing solutions because don't have the right state of mind to think for a proper one.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Paying someone 70 hours has the same cost as paying two persons 35 hours, right? (In my country technically no, because higher base taxation)

What he wants is to pay one person for 70hrs, the same as he'd pay one person for 35 hrs.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AND he will massively underpay that worker for their 35 hours.

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[–] palmtrees2309@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

MoFo wants 80 hour work week and pays 4,353 USD per year to Indian CS graduates.

[–] flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 27 points 1 week ago

What a megalomaniac.

Yeah he's inspired by a system which country banned it and yet he still wants it?

[–] Rhyfel@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

We don't eat enough billionaires

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[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I am not an advocate of slavery generally speaking but I do think that it is a just and righteous thing to enslave someone like this and to use them for backbreaking labour for 20 hours per day.

Like. Make it pointless too. Dig this hole. Fill that hole. Dig it again.

Feed them stuff you find in dumpsters. Beat them if their hole digging is going to slow. Test cosmetics on them. Sell them to be used for sex.

That seems right to me.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Good luck finding talent, dickhead

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some billionaires are saying shorter work weeks be used of AI, some are saying longer.

If this just a way for us to be “grateful” for things to remain the same?

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’ll be longer. AI will be there to accelerate the cadence, turning “knowledge workers” from artisans who have the relative luxury of solving problems autonomously at their workstations intro assembly-line labour who hurriedly sling prompts and patch up botshit.

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago

Revive a debate? Really? In that case, I’m reviving the debate for redistributing Murthy’s net wealth to all citizens as UBI.

[–] Australis13@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago

I'm sure these idiots have no concept of the future. They want to burn everyone out in months to years for the sake of boosting their profits in the here and now. Doesn't matter that if you treat your workers well (and pay them well) you often get greater productivity over a longer period.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Infosys is a shitty boss that would contract for 2 resources but only assign 1 to do the work. That's why he wants 80 hours per headcount.

This is why I'm somewhat happy that AI would render extinct companies like Infosys, Wipro, etc.

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