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I don't get the love for Nextcloud - alternative for just files? (lemmy.ca)

submitted 1 year ago by GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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I tried Nextcloud a while back and was not impressed - I had issues withe the speed of the Windows sync that were determined to be "normal" with no roadmap to getting fixed. I'm now planning to move off Windows desktop so that won't be an issue - so I thought I'd try again.

I went to nextcloud.com, clicked on Download-> Nextcloud server -> All-in-one -> Docker image - Setup AIO. This took me to the github README at Docker section. I'm already running docker for other things so I read the instructions, setup a new filesystem for my data directory and ran the suggested docker command with an appropriate "--env NEXTCLOUD_DATADIR=". I'm then left with a terminal running docker in the foreground - not a great way to run a background server but ok, I've been around for a while and can figure out how to make it autostart in the background ongoing. So I move on to the next step - open my browser at the appropriate URL and I'm presented with a simple page asking me to "Log in using your Nextcloud AIO passphrase:". I don't have a Nextcloud AIO passphrase and nothing I've read so far has mentioned it. When I search for it I get some results on how to reset it, but not much help. I could probably figure that out too, but after reading some more I found that Nextcloud requires a public hostname and can't work with a local name or IP address. I'm already running my home LAN with OpenVPN and access it from anywhere as "local" - I don't really want to create a new path into my home network just for Nextcloud.

I'm sorry - I know this sounds like a disgruntled rant and I guess it is. I just want to check that I'm not missing obvious things before I give up again. All I want is a simple file sync setup like onedrive but without the microsoft.

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 2 points 1 year ago

Nextcloud it just too heavy I totally agree, and everything feels slow and sluggish.

For just files I use Syncthing and couldn't be happier, it just works in the background without a central server just syncs the files between phones, PCs and laptops by itself. I set it up like 5 years ago when I had enough of Nextcloud and to be honest most of the time I forget that I have it, but I use it every day to sync my password database for KeePassXC, my music, my private and work documents between all my devices.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Agreed, Nextcloud has gone from a lean little personal cloud to a hulking enterprise hub.

If you're after something that'll just sync your files between devices, try Syncthing. If you need files available online, maybe something like filestash or, like somebody else suggested, SFTPgo.

There are also tiny, lean calendar and contact server apps out there if you decide you need those. After self hosting NC for years I'm really happy spreading out the tasks over dedicated services rather than having all my eggs in one basket.

[–] paperd@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

the base install is still pretty lean, its only hulking if you enable all their new junk, but if you don't enable all that, the default, at least when installed it was quite lean.

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I replaced Nextcloud with syncthing (files) & radicale (calendar, contacts & todos)

No-one used the calendar on NC, they just used their phones, Outlook, etc

No-one used the photo gallery on NC - that's now Immich ... again, with syncthing.

During the early days, just doing an update would break things.

For a small home setup, NC is too big, too clunky and just not the right tool.

[–] Aufgehtsabgehts@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago

Totally different for me:

NC-calendar syncs two different calendars (work and private) accross all my devices.
NC Photos with Memories organizes 2 TB of photos and has all the functions Immich has.
NC Password Manager syncs my Passwords
I share big files with my clients via NC and photo albums to friends and family.
NC syncs and organizes different Input-folders for my paperless-ngx-server.
I update NC with a small script, works every time

So it replaces at least 5 different Programs. And it's 80 % private use, 20 % for my business. Not too big, not too clunky, just the right tool.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nextclouds docker setup is an absolute disaster, I don't blame you for giving up. It's also slow as molasses to sync anything.

A couple things to look at, I would probably say look at KaraDAV first.

KaraDAV, this is a simple webdav server that's compatible with the Nextcloud sync clients. Uses SQLite for a DB so setup is super simple. Has a basic web based file browser too.
Owncloud Infinite Scale, still a bit of a setup, but it's better than what Nextcloud offers.
Syncthing, this is my current setup, just a robust and solid file sync program. You can pair it up on your server with something like SFTPGo or KaraDAV to provide a web file manager and WebDAV server if you need that. Downside is there's no selective sync or virtual folder support.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

That's just Docker in a nutshell.