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I went to a pc building shop and the price of 64 RAM DDR5 was over $1000. I could have built an entire PC with that price a year ago.

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[–] anon5621@lemmy.ml 122 points 1 month ago (6 children)

The best we can do is just wait when price will fall down after ai bubble will explode

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 69 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Probably but with all the idiots fueled by sunken costs and desperate to prove they were right to invest, it could still last a long time.

I built a decent PC a couple years ago, and I don't need to upgrade often since I don't really care about cutting edge. So I kinda dodged a bullet, but, this sucks.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Honestly the incentive to “upgrade” a gaming PC the past decade is really weak. Aside from a few AAA titles almost all games run just fine on old hardware. Particularly if you ditch Windows.

So let’s just all refuse to buy this overpriced shit. The same price increases have already happened to GPUs and gamers felt like they “needed” to pay those prices still, nah fuck that, don’t give these greedy pigs a dime.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm worried that they're trying to price us into not owning our machines anymore. You will own nothing and rent from us strategy.

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[–] Shyanae@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What I see inside the headset after setting the game to 25% Render scale FSR Ultra Performance Lossless Scaling 5x framegen:

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[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Im going to get me a dual CPU thread riper server for $399 when the crash happens!

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[–] UnGlasierteGurke@feddit.org 78 points 1 month ago
[–] flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 41 points 1 month ago (23 children)

DDR4 is serviceable to me.

Here's some actual advice for PC builders - what do you actually want from your system? Nothing you say can be vague, you have to set up goals. That's the entire important note of PC building is what you're building it for and how long you want it to last for as in, how long until you're wanting to build another?

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

One thing I've run into is not performance with old hardware but missing features from the CPU/GPU. Think of tpm 2.0 requirements for Windows 11. There's other obscure instruction sets that newer games and programs require such as resizeable bar if you want to run a local llm.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah. I'm on a relatively old build with DDR4, but still a decent processor and GPU. So far gaming have not been an issue with whatever I'm throwing at it. Not much in the way of loading times, and no real problem with the size of it. Some less game-y stuff, like video transcoding and 3D renders, also fine. And while I can see those improving somewhat with DDR5, I'm not sure it's the actual bottleneck. And gaming won't be much better with it… I mean seriously, moving loading times from 3 seconds to 2? I don't really care.

The real issue will be when things starts to break down, as hardware do over time. It's not that I want to replace the hardware if there's no pressure from the software side, but I will have to if RAM goes bad, or motherboard decide to not power up.

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

Instructions unclear. Purchased a 5090, 9800X3D and 64gb DDR5 RAM for playing Terraria. Also, it has shiny lights.

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[–] Shyanae@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

64GB of DDR3 RAM in a system of that era is straight nuts!

[–] Shyanae@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I got a good deal where it was cheaper than the 32gb I intended to have :D It's DDR4 btw. So it might be worth the whole system soon (1000k for the whole computer in 2017)

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[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Clearly the best advice is "Build your PC a year ago"

[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not even. More like 3 months ago.

The pair of 2x16 DDR5 6000 TEAMGROUP I bought back in April was $90 from Amazon. According to pcpartpicker, pricing started trending upwards late September, which Newegg still had it at $89 (9/30/25; B&H @ $109). The same pair at B&H is currently $439 (12/21/25) and MemoryC is asking $596. It's insane.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ya but video cards have been insane since covid too

[–] jupiter_jazz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

Even before covid, when crypto was the big thing

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't consume any AI products. Don't consume any products made or marketed with AI products. Don't support any companies than invest in AI or are invested in because of AI. Lets kill this nonsense in 2026 and bring computing, jobs and wealth back into the hands of ordinary people. And a prememptive - NO BAILOUT for the tech bros when this shit crashes.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

AI is mainly being aimed at B2B

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

One of the commenters said:

"avoid building a PC right now" is advice I've been following since 2017

And honestly yeah. I guess at this point if you can afford it, just pull the plug whenever, it's always some bullshit going on the PC Market anyway.

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I built my PC in 2019 right at the end of the year and I thank the gods everyday. I've only done one CPU upgrade since and it's still great for 1440p gaming. The whole tower minus monitor and what not was probably like $900 at the time

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As (relatively) old as they are, midrange Core i5 chips from Intel’s 12th-, 13th-, and 14th-generation Core CPU lineups are still solid choices for budget-to-midrange PC builds.

I would be hesitant about obtaining secondhand 13th or 14th gen desktop Intel CPUs, since those are the ones that destroy themselves over time. There is no way to know whether they've been run on non-updated BIOSes and damaged themselves. I burned through an i9-13900 and an i9-14900 myself. Started with occasional errors and gradually got worse until they couldn't even get through boot. I am sure that there are lots of people trying to unload damaged processors (knowingly or unknowingly) that have only seen the early stages of damage.

12th-gen CPUs are safe.

Consider pre-built systems. A quick glance at Dell’s Alienware lineup and Lenovo’s Legion lineup makes it clear that these towers still aren’t particularly price-competitive with similarly specced self-built PCs. This was true before there was a RAM shortage, and it’s true now. But for certain kinds of PCs, particularly budget PCs, it can still make more sense to buy than to build.

I just picked up two Alienware PCs for relatives to take advantage of this window, but it was only something like a two-week window, where Dell announced at the beginning of December that they were doing price increases to reflect the RAM shortage mid-December. I believe that that window is closed now (or, well, it might still be cheaper to get DIMMs with a PC than separate, but not to get memory that way at pre-memory-shortage prices any more).

EDIT: From memory, Lenovo announced that they were doing their RAM-induced price increases at the beginning of January, so for Lenovo, it might still work for another week-and-a-half or so.

EDIT2: 15th gen Intel CPUs are also safe WRT damage, but like AMD's AM5-socket processors, they can't use DDR4 memory, which is what the author is trying to find a route to do.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I waited too long to buy a new PC. I thought the later, the better. And now this.

Well, Windows 10 support runs until October 2026.

[–] Sludge@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The sirens of Linux call to you in the meantime.

[–] Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Sludge@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

Long time user, first time caller.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

IMO, the pricing is an extortion scam rather than a real shortage. People are falling for it because of AI hype narrative. Best to wait it out.

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[–] fum@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How about just don't buy a PC for now? I'm sure the machine you've got in good enough. Just hang on to it until the prices come back down

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

My old i7 4790k with DDR3 can run for a little longer.....

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[–] Auth@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Best advice is grab an AM4 motherboard and go for DD4 ram. You wont notice a difference in performance for majority of games. DDR4 ram and AM4 cpu's are cheap.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess my ageing i5-8400, 16GB, GTX 1060 rig can keep hobbling along a while yet.

Although I was amused to see my Legion Go S actually has a more powerful CPU now.

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Did some server maintenance yesterday, including driver updates. Broke my system since it updated my Nvidia driver to 590.x which no longer supports our little 1060s. Had to roll back the driver, thankfully easy. Suppose I better start keeping an eye out for some sort of upgrade...

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 1 month ago

How much RAM does a time machine require because that seems to be the basic advice here.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Not a hardware fix, but there's memory compression. It sounds like Windows 11 defaults to having memory compression on:

https://www.xda-developers.com/little-known-windows-feature-hurting-your-pcs-performance-heres-how-can-disable-it/

Linux has zswap and zram to do memory compression, which I've mentioned here recently. I don't know of any distros that turn it on by default. It sounds from recent reading like for modern systems with SSD swap, zswap is probably preferable to zram.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Looks like I'm going to be stuck in 2023 for a long long time...

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

This, but 2015

[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So do we expect the cost of gpu's to also rise due to this? Some money is opening up and next year I wanted to upgrade anyway. Might just need to buy it earlier

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[–] sundray@lemmus.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is it time to start shucking mini pcs and game consoles?

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