Was trying to install guix on top of fedora silverblue. It's kinda working, but not exactly stable...
Wait, what? Iβm legit not familiar with immutable distros, is it like youβre only allowed to modify certain directories?
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I recently brought over some ideas from VanillaOS over to my Arch install.
- Install as much as possible via flatpak
- Install a bunch of other stuff in distrobox (with podman backend)
That gives me like 50% (idk fake number) of the features from VanillaOS, but I get to keep control over my system.
Not that I ever had any problems with native pacman installs though... so... not sure how much benefit I'm really getting from doing this. I guess my pacman -Syu command runs faster now. That's something...
Why are you even running arch at that point, for the DE updates?
Some updates after sleeping on it and trying some morning debugging:
- It's actually either service being enabled that prevents login
- It's a gnome-shell issue. Logging into a tty is fine, and shows that it's gnome-shell crashing when trying to log-in normally
Maybe it's time to go back to debian...
Maybe it's time to join us in NixOS land. When you have the immutability on top of the whole OS and the language controlling it, things tend to work a bit better.
I'm Sorry we don't have the "))))))". Just a weird ass language.
where i get into trouble is when i do a bunch of nixos-rebuild βswitches between restarts and some state ends up hanging around, so next time i do a reboot that ephemeral state is gone and whoops no internet
Not specifically a nixos issue, also at least nix gives you rollbacks
If youβre not already, just erase your darlings.
Then you can preview what files are lost on reboot (see blogpost).
Its the ghost, the ghost in the machine. Major Kusanagi would be proud
I just don't get these for a bare metal system. Containers? Sounds great. Definitely on board. Bare metal? Debian, standard fedora, or gentoo is what makes sense to me
Workstation-as-code is pretty dope for enterprise...
The idea of an immutable, idempotent, declarative workstation, from cradle to grave, tickles me pink.
At that point, make it a thin client which boots from a network image and logs you into a terminal server.
Then you have the hardware and software resources you need for your role wherever you are.
Honestly, my current stance on immutable distros is: why don't you have a mutable distro and just try to follow the best practices without being forced to?
Install flatpaks, use Distrobox when something is only available as a standard package, but doesn't actually depend on non-isolated system interaction, etc.
This way, nothing breaks the way it does with immutable distros, but you still have a reasonable level of confidence in your system.
Yeah, I'm leaning toward this option tbh.
If we got to the point where popular machines had custom images with all the necessary extra drivers etc, it might be a value add. But for now I'm not seeing a huge benefit
I initially tried guix -> switched to nix with home-manager because it's got a lot better repos -> installed all user packages through nix on Debian -> nixos
Before nixos I used flatpaks for some packages because nixgl seems abandoned.