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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 233 points 4 weeks ago (14 children)

Do it. I know which OS will run fine on 8G of RAM and which one won't.

[–] Damarus@feddit.org 110 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be happy with 8 GB of RAM regardless of OS.

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 35 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Same, I am often about 8 GB of RAM with my daily usage.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

Debian keeps barfing on me with 16.

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[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Someone's smelling the year of the desktop

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[–] comador@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago

Minix and FreeBSD...

/runs; hides

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[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 101 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Hah, guess they're gonna have to run Linux. Windows 11 would choke on 8 GB RAM.

[–] bananabread@lemmy.zip 21 points 4 weeks ago

It's the year of the Linux desktop!

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (5 children)

I agree, funny enough they require minimum 4 GB, but I had problems with it with 16 GB. 8 GB is nowhere near enough, especially if you use excel, teams, and that crap.

[–] Buckshot@programming.dev 13 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I have to use windows at work, have 32gb and regularly get browser tabs unloaded for low memory. I'm not running VMs or anything. Usually just Firefox, visual studio, and slack.

Personal computer is Linux with 16gb and that's more than enough.

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[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 77 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

So RAM costs them more now, and they need to pass those costs onto customers. However, it seems like they’re also trying to redefine what “mid-range” means to us all, as if we aren’t fully aware of what computers are capable of and what amount of memory is good vs not. Making the various ranges cost more is intuitive. Enshitifying the ranges to sell them at the same price is just antithetical to the whole concept of the ranges…

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 29 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s like if batteries got stupid expensive and they tried to tell us 200km of range is what you get in a touring EV these days. But the distances between all the places haven’t changed…

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 15 points 4 weeks ago

Can see that happening, in this fake economy.

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[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 76 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (6 children)

Maybe this will be a boon. The entire reason the ram requirements got so high as it is is because software optimization was put on the back burner. Maybe a ram shortage where people can't obtain the ram needed will force the big name software devs to start being more frugal with ram. (talking to you chrome... whom currently is using 2 gigs alone just trying to show a twitch stream...)

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 67 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

Or more realistically be used as an excuse for always online cloud based services a la office 365. "We would let you download the app, but most users don't have the computing power so instead we'll just make this a helpful subscription!"

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[–] kieron115@startrek.website 27 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

At least one studio, Larian, has confirmed this is the case for them.

When discussing the pressures the company faces when releasing a game in early access, such as audience expectations, Vincke told us, "Interestingly, another [issue Larian is facing] is really the price of RAM and the price of SSDs and f**k, man. It's like, literally, we've never had it like this."

He continued, "It kind of ruins all of your projections that you had about it because normally, you know the curves, and you can protect the hardware. It's gonna be an interesting one. It means that most likely, we already need to do a lot of optimization work in early access that we didn't necessarily want to do at that point in time. So it's challenging, but it's video games."

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 65 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Large computing will exist solely in the cloud where you will pay a subscription for it. Can't have these grubbing consumers buy anything we elites don't get a monthly cut of.

I wish this was sarcasm.

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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 62 points 4 weeks ago

It's neat that AI is already ruining the world in really tangible ways.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 56 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

8 GB of RAM would be enough if every fucking application didn't use Electron.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Or web applications, Firefox/Chrome uses like 32 GB RAM and constantly crashes my computer because of it

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[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 53 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

Soldered in, or upgradeable at least? The former would be a huge reason to never buy the newest gen of laptops.

EDIT: Missed in article, yeah this would suck if they stick to soldered RAM for ultra-thins.

Another problem manufacturers face is with notebooks that ship with soldered DRAM. In particular, ultrathin designs would need to be revamped to modify their configurations.

[–] ThisGuyThat@lemmy.world 43 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Those soldered low RAM ones are going to be in the dump a lot sooner.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 15 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

They do not care about the planned obsolescence of it all.

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[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 44 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Let's see how this plays out with windows 11 😄

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 44 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Time to switch to Linux people lol. Windows is barely usable on 8GB these days.

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[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 40 points 4 weeks ago (18 children)

better start removing AI from Windows then... holy fucj my 16gb is barely holding up with windows11 that in forced to use on my work PC. slow as BALLS, it's just raping the entire system performance constantly

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (17 children)

Does midrange being at 8GB mean that entry level will be 4GB? because I know corpos are gonna be corpos.

(I don't think windows even run at 4GB lmfao)

Edit: Also, this RAM shortage might force people to use Linux 😁

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

8 GIGABYTES!!? How am I supposed to load a mouse driver in THAT!?

[–] CucumberFetish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

You don't need to load the mouse driver on your laptop. We have a subscription service for it!

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 34 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

mid-range laptops to 8GB

My not-terribly-new phone has 12GB of memory, and I'm pretty sure that Android is a lot lighter on memory than the Windows 11 that I suspect a lot of these are going to be running.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Don’t worry Microsoft will shove as much agentic AI bullshit into Windows 11 as they can, further ruining performance.

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 34 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

This wouldn't be much of an issue if most of the laptops nowadays didn't come with soldered in ram and no options of expanding.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 33 points 4 weeks ago

Why not just tell me to go fuck myself and skip the unsatisfying foreplay?

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 33 points 4 weeks ago

lol lets fuck all other computational sciences so that people can generate cats drinking whiskey in robes de chambre.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 30 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago

More like for the price of 64GB.

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[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

...and I'm still on 4 GB RAM, TROLOLOL

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 25 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)
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[–] Cryxtalix@programming.dev 22 points 4 weeks ago

What. My six year old cheapo Acer laptop that got my broke ass through college had 16gb ram. My raspberry pi has 8gb of ram.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

And developers will make their shitty apps more resource-efficient, right? RIGHT!?

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[–] itsathursday@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

The AI snake is finally eating its tail.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago

They'll solder 4gb. So even if RAM prices go down, you're still effffed

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